Conversation with #inferno at Tue Feb 10 21:41:02 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(00:44:48) Capso: Hey, does anyone have the Inferno fonts package?
(00:45:11) Capso: I installed Inferno from SVN, and it's missing a shitload of fonts that various applications (i.e., charon) rely on
(00:45:28) Capso: I'd be very grateful if I could import && cp from anyone
(00:47:31) uriel: they can't distribute it
(00:47:50) uriel: because vn, like bell labs, is doing their best to keep inferno a failure, and don't want to bother to include free fonts with inferno
(00:48:08) uriel: there is some script somewhere to pick them from the standard inferno distribution
(00:48:12) uriel: no clue where
(00:48:13) mycroftiv: Capso: well, ill distribute it to you, one sec
(00:55:31) Capso: uriel: Why is it a bother to them?
(00:55:36) Capso: Licensing issues or something?
(00:57:01) sqweek: yes, the font license they have only allows font distribution alongside inferno itself
(01:00:07) Capso: Do they do nightlies?
(01:00:16) Capso: They could include fonts then...
(01:01:35) uriel: they don't do nightlies
(01:02:01) uriel: but they could include free fronts, as acme-sac does
(01:02:42) Capso: If they like, 9fans can contribute code to package nightlies
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(01:16:13) Capso: mycroftiv: Much thanks!
(01:16:20) Capso: finished downloading
(01:16:42) mycroftiv: Capso: cool, enjoy the fonts ;)
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(01:56:38) Capso: Charon is more bearable due to it
(01:56:52) Capso: (even though I like abaco better
(01:57:00) Capso: and no HTTP best)
(01:57:48) mycroftiv: i hear abaco has been ported to plan9port, id like to check that out, see what its like
(01:58:03) mycroftiv: i like abaco in plan9 too, although there are stability issues
(01:58:22) Capso: The unappealing part is that it's Acme, but without Acme ;/
(01:58:32) Capso: Also, there is no Look!
(01:59:01) Capso: (Though, I also don't know how to search within Charon)
(02:00:45) Capso: I would probably be happy with an htmlfmt-alike, with proper formatting, within Acme, with just page-plumbable references for images
(02:01:04) Capso: That pretty much covers it
(02:01:10) mycroftiv: interesting thought
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(02:03:35) Capso: My mind is for auction
(02:27:01) Capso: Is there any way to snarf something from Inferno and paste it in Plan 9?
(02:27:53) mycroftiv: it doesnt 'just work' by default? that surprises me
(02:40:35) Capso: not here
(02:40:48) Capso: at least, not with charon and irc
(02:41:49) mycroftiv: thats too bad, I would have assumed that access to the snarf buffer would be possible and inferno would use it
(02:42:06) uriel: mycroftiv: that is not surprising at all, that is usual vn practice
(02:42:37) uriel: making things work by default is against the plan9/inferno tradition of making non-bell-labs/vn users as misserable as possible
(05:01:56) anothy_x: on the web browser thing:
(05:02:17) anothy_x: i want charon from acme-sac in other environments, either plan 9 or mainline inferno.
(05:02:58) anothy_x: it seems like it ought to be possible to arrange the namespace such that the charon proc can run in the background, import an acme session, and use that for its UI. that's what i'd like best, using the plan 9 acme i already use.
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(06:18:56) Capso: anothy_x: Absolutely -- what aspects of Acme do you think will be usable? Look, etc.?
(06:19:05) sqweek: Capso: bind '#U/mnt/plumb/send' /chan/plumb.input #or some variation
(06:19:23) Capso: for what sqweek?
(06:19:45) sqweek: er wait, that's the plumber
(06:19:54) sqweek: similar idea for sharing the snarf buffer anyway
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(06:20:20) Capso: Ah, where does Inferno's snarf buffer reside?
(06:20:31) sqweek: /chan/snarf
(06:20:48) Capso: OK, great
(06:21:02) Capso: plumber works fine, btw
(06:22:23) sqweek: it plumbs to plan 9 by default?
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(06:43:08) Capso: sqweek: Yes
(06:43:09) Capso: Just fine
(06:43:18) Capso: At least, IRC does.
(06:48:26) sqweek: ah, i suppose it just imports the plumber
(06:48:35) sqweek: no real sense in starting another one
(06:51:41) Capso: hai
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