Conversation with #inferno at Sat Aug  1 22:02:11 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(08:13:15) vsrinivas: hi everybody
(08:14:04) mycroftiv: hello
(08:14:11) vsrinivas: if i'm writing a process thats meant to be mount: 'mount {foo} /n/s
(08:15:37) vsrinivas: if the process foo makes a new pgrp, what happens to everything after that
(08:16:03) vsrinivas: (does the new pgrp only apply to children of the {}-ed process?)
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(13:35:02) mjl-: vsrinivas: i think the command in {}'s is executed by the shell in a spawned prog, so the pgrp wouldn't affect the shell, but only itself and its children
(13:35:06) mjl-: i think
(13:35:26) mjl-: i remember looking into that some time ago, as some of the inferno fs'es seemed to leave progs around after unmounting
(15:17:30) soul9: hello everyone
(15:18:08) soul9: so: i start an acme and an wm/irc in my wmsetup, the thing is that the acme doesn't start right, and i don't understand why in the heck it doesn't
(15:18:39) soul9: this has been an issues for me for quite a while now (approximatively one year, i'd say)
(15:19:13) sqweek: "doesn't start right" doesn't give much information
(15:19:15) soul9: so the acme that start is just an empty window, sometimes with artifacts like a part of the wm/irc window imprinted on it
(15:19:21) soul9: sqweek: ☺
(15:19:48) soul9: i think i could make an screenshot to demonstrate, not a screen-video though
(15:20:55) soul9: it may have something to do with this error: acme: can't create temp file file does not exist: file does not exist
(15:21:08) soul9: though it has bugging me for so long i'd be surprised
(15:21:33) soul9: the window is almost completely unresponsive
(15:23:05) soul9: i tried putting sleeps between the launch of wm/irc and acme, that doesn't seem to help either
(15:23:32) sqweek: does /tmp work properly?
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(15:24:14) soul9: i think so
(15:24:25) soul9: i have a buncs of /tmp/johnacme.xxxx files
(15:24:36) soul9: (acme doesn't start at all without /tmp
(15:24:38) soul9: )
(15:25:18) soul9: http://j.9souldier.org/scrot.jpg
(15:25:40) soul9: can see the empty acme window on top of the wm/irc one
(15:25:51) soul9: also, if i start acme by hand it starts fine
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(15:29:26) soul9: when i start it from wm-sh it doesn't give me the 'can't create temp file' error
(15:30:55) soul9: $home/lib/profile: http://friendpaste.com/4VS5JPO0thpqCuWroT3g4R
(15:31:25) soul9: $home/lib/wmsetup: http://friendpaste.com/4rB8hEztEVqHTA2OeiXlgt
(15:33:16) sqweek: tbh i'm not really sure about the init process
(15:35:09) soul9: mhhh..actually, looks like a race of somesort. if i put a sleep 5 between starting wm/irc and acme it starts much more reliably
(17:20:28) uriel: mjl-: congrats, seems like you have got many fixes into the main inferno distribution!
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