Conversation with #inferno at Tue Jun  1 13:35:08 2010 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(01:35:38) ***btdn kicks gcc for producing bad assembly.
(01:36:23) btdn: And for being just annoying in general.
(01:44:49) btdn: fmtprint.c:32: error: incompatible types in assignment
(01:44:54) btdn: Then tell me what the types are!
(01:45:55) btdn: (Though that isn't difficult for me to figure out, I see no reason it shouldn't tell me.)
(02:11:41) soul9: to cheer you up: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2010-05/msg00705.html
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(02:19:12) ***btdn gags.
(02:21:31) btdn: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2010-05/msg00741.html
(02:21:37) btdn: Plan 9 does that without C++.
(02:22:02) btdn: 2/wi4
(02:22:04) btdn: Sorry.
(02:37:46) ***btdn is annoyed that /usr/inferno/emu resets variables in mk.
(02:43:11) ***btdn thinks he has suceeded in building Inferno on NetBSD/amd64 (though in 32-bit mode).
(02:43:33) btdn: Yep.
(02:43:38) btdn: Charon even works! :-p
(02:45:06) btdn: One less reason for me to not learn Limbo.
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(03:00:06) uriel: btdn: Go is the way! 
(03:00:34) btdn: An apostate? :p
(03:01:58) btdn: Does Go have a graphics library?
(03:02:09) uriel: it has a few 
(03:02:26) uriel: at least one in the main distribution (based on draw)
(03:04:19) uriel: see also http://go-lang.cat-v.org/library-bindings
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(15:33:45) idr: Can someone tell, what can be done to trace back the origin of a mount, e.g. the origin of a mount using trfs? /prog/PID/ns apparently isn't generally sufficient to get the answer ...
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(18:42:21) anth_x: idr: there isn't a way to reliably, programatically do it.
(18:42:28) anth_x: the theory is basically that you shouldn't really care.
(18:42:48) anth_x: inspecting /prog/n/ns will get you there most times...
(18:43:19) anth_x: ...but when some things, like #|, are involved, it gets harder.
(18:43:41) anth_x: you can't reliably know what that particular #| element refers to (unless you've arranged to do so ahead of time, i guess)
(19:15:06) idr: Thank you, anth_x. - When the system remembers the mapping, then it shouldn't be impossible to get the information, I guess (may be not with userspace tools)? Any idea where in the sources I could potentially find an answer how the system remembers the mapping? Any clue?
(19:22:52) anth_x: the stuff in /prog/n maps internal structures which are probably your starting point.
(19:23:14) anth_x: the issue with #| is figuring out what's on the other end of the pipe, which is likely what you (as a human) care about.
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(19:31:59) idr: I'll try to figure it out. I should gain a better understanding of the pipe device yet, and should try to reproduce what actually is happening when mounting/binding. Will be interesting. - Thanks for the support!
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