Conversation with #inferno at Wed Jan 19 06:52:16 2011 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(10:07:08) GriffenJBS: mjl-: could you check this for me? does it run for you? http://inferno-ds.googlecode.com/files/isds-r175.nds
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(10:50:44) mjl-: GriffenJBS: will check in a bit
(10:50:49) mjl-: i've started on fontfs
(10:51:23) mjl-: i have a simple styx server that serves 1 size of 1 font, only ascii range
(10:51:28) mjl-: won't be too hard to extend
(10:51:31) mjl-: http://www.ueber.net/who/mjl/tmp/fontfs0.png
(10:51:37) mjl-: http://www.ueber.net/who/mjl/tmp/fontfs0.b
(11:22:35) mjl-: GriffenJBS: with that isds-r175.nds i do get text on the bottom screen
(11:22:42) mjl-: but then it tries to do network and crashes
(11:22:44) mjl-: no gui
(11:23:07) mjl-: this is with ttds and the ttds loader from the ttds website
(11:23:10) mjl-: let me check the version
(11:23:21) mjl-: GriffenJBS: do you have a nds lite, or the original nds?
(11:23:51) mjl-: V1.10, www.ndstt.com.  that's what the ttds loader says.
(11:23:58) mjl-: off for a while
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(13:28:14) mjl-: base2design: did you see my comment on the hget slowness? (that it is a timeout)
(13:31:53) mjl-: http://www.ueber.net/who/mjl/tmp/stubfs.b
(13:32:12) mjl-: that should be enough for placing a fixed number of files & dirs at some mountpoint, right?
(13:32:29) mjl-: or could it do more/less, or better?
(13:33:24) mjl-: and this for making mntgen serve files: http://www.ueber.net/who/mjl/tmp/mntgen.b.diff
(13:34:11) mjl-: it didn't make sense to put the stubfs stuff into mntgen (options would get weird)
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(16:40:17) GriffenJBS: mjl-: I just get two white screens, and no text, ttds is v1.18, original nds (should be the same hardware, right?)
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(16:44:20) GriffenJBS: actually I have two original nds, one with factory firmware, the other patched with FlashMe
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(17:43:19) anth_x: mjl-: why isn't that screenshot running qwm? ;-)
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(20:08:10) base2design: mjl: i missed your hget comment
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(21:35:03) base2design: i've brought this up before but didn't get a response... if i could get the artwork, would there be any interest in plan9 / inferno t-shirts?
(21:51:59) vsrinivas: heh yea
(21:54:16) base2design: i'll ask charles if he's cool with it and if the original artwork is available in scalable form.
(21:54:26) anth_x: the original artwork VN put on shirts?
(21:54:35) base2design: anth_x: yes
(21:55:06) anth_x: i've already got more of those than i need. from memory, i have 2 of the inferno ones and 3-4 of the plan9 ones.
(21:55:53) base2design: (my wife has a screen press in the basement... she just made me a classic commodore 64 "READY" (BASIC prompt) t-shirt and it got me thinking)
(21:56:19) anth_x: the office manager used to make us take a new one every time we did a trade show. she was afraid the black on someone's would've faded more than others from washing.
(21:56:34) base2design: :)
(21:57:24) base2design: anth_x/vsrinivas: do by chance have mjl's response about hget timeouts? my client died sometime in the night and i missed his responses
(21:58:01) anth_x: there was also a glenda shirt someone (charles, i think) did... maybe for one of the iwp9s. i get more comments about that one than the others from non-techie people.
(21:58:15) base2design: :)
(21:58:25) anth_x: only in my memory. he agreed it was a timeout.
(21:58:33) base2design: it's a neat mascot
(21:58:34) anth_x: i don't remember what to do about it, though. sorry.
(21:59:07) base2design: thx: off to put debug in hget :)
(22:00:05) anth_x: have fun. off to go food shopping.
(22:50:52) Fish-: I have also few glenda tshirt I made
(23:22:24) mjl-: base2design: t-shirts are good!
(23:22:27) mjl-: 23:30 < mjl-> base2design: i should've notice it before
(23:22:27) mjl-: 23:30 < mjl-> try hget with options:  -h connection close
(23:22:27) mjl-: 23:30 < mjl-> it is a timeout
(23:22:27) mjl-: 23:31 < mjl-> it has to do with ssl's treating the read function as readn, i.e. it only returns when the buffer is full or during eof
(23:22:33) mjl-: tohse were the comments on hget
(23:51:56) base2design: thx
(23:53:32) base2design: eventually after digging in the code, i saw the mhttp code where there's a gets that was blocking
(23:55:28) base2design: but every http client i've ever written (in c at least) i've wound up handling the server output by hand buffering (via simple read() from file descriptor and ioctl() to see how many characters were buffered by the os/network stack)
(23:56:32) base2design: ...and i didn't see any timeout parameters in the bufio library ;
(23:56:34) base2design: ;)
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(02:50:46) base2design: okay gang... i'm still full of stupid questions. here's the latest:
(02:51:25) base2design: i'm assembling a filesystem for my embedded board and when i do tcp related actions in my code, i get the message:
(02:51:43) base2design: "dial failed: Address family not supported by protocol (/net/tcp/clone)"
(02:52:12) base2design: can someone suggest what i'm missing from either emu or dis/lib?
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(03:20:28) base2design: (sorry to repeat myself... fishing for help here)
(03:21:03) base2design: i got the message "dial failed: Address family not supported by protocol (/net/tcp/clone)"
(03:21:36) base2design: ...when using my minimal inferno setup... any suggestions on what i forgot to put into emu or my filesystem
(03:23:31) cbj1: Is this on windows?  Did you hg update within the last couple of days?
(03:25:14) base2design: it's an emu i compiled for an arm embedded linux system. my last hg pull (and build) was yesterday
(03:26:17) base2design: here's my ns and driver setup:
(03:26:21) base2design: ; ns
(03:26:22) base2design: bind / /
(03:26:22) base2design: bind -ac '#U' /
(03:26:23) base2design: bind /dev /dev
(03:26:24) base2design: bind -b '#c' /dev
(03:26:24) base2design: bind '#p' /prog
(03:26:25) base2design: bind '#d' /fd
(03:26:25) base2design: bind /net /net
(03:26:26) base2design: bind -a '#I' /net
(03:26:27) base2design: bind -c '#e' /env
(03:26:27) base2design: cd /
(03:26:28) base2design: ; cat /dev/drivers
(03:26:28) base2design: #/ root
(03:26:29) base2design: #c cons
(03:26:29) base2design: #e env
(03:26:30) base2design: #M mnt
(03:26:30) base2design: #| pipe
(03:26:31) base2design: #p prog
(03:26:31) base2design: #P prof
(03:26:32) base2design: #s srv
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(03:27:35) base2design: sorry folks. i put that on one line but pasted the wrong clipboard
(03:28:30) cbj1: how are you calling dial?
(03:29:51) base2design: cbj1: (ok, c) := sys->dial(www, nil);
(03:30:12) base2design: (dang, i almost pasted the same big clipboard again)
(03:32:10) cbj1: and what is the contents of www?
(03:32:42) base2design: "tcp!10.0.1.4!80"
(03:32:53) base2design: (a webserver on my local network)
(03:34:53) cbj1: I suppose you get the same error if you call dial from the command line.
(03:36:09) base2design: i don't have dial on that system, but i could install it and give it a try
(03:40:43) base2design: -> dial: cannot dial tcp!10.0.1.4!80:: Address family not supported by protocol (/net/tcp/clone)
(03:51:57) cbj1: it might be the recent changes to ipv6. mjl-?
(03:53:25) base2design: i've compiled the same version of emu for both osx and linux/386 and don't seem to have the same problem (although i have the whole of the inferno dev environment there). let me put together a similar environment on one of those machines and re-test.
(03:54:32) cbj1: Does anyone know what all the recent changes with ssh in inferno-os are about?
(03:55:09) vsrinivas: with ssh?
(03:55:32) cbj1: looks like /appl/cmd/ssh was removed and stuff added under factotum.
(03:55:44) cbj1: i didn't know /appl/cmd/ssh even existed.
(03:55:48) vsrinivas: i didn't either....
(03:56:01) cbj1: i wonder what factotum now supports, and how do i use it.
(03:56:15) base2design: wow... look at that!
(03:56:22) base2design: i didn't notice either
(04:01:00) base2design: ok... i have the same filesystem on osx and don't get the "dial" errors.
(04:01:14) base2design: what could i have left out of my emu on arm?
(04:01:23) base2design: (that keeps net from working)
(04:08:13) base2design: just ran the same thing on linux/386... no dial errors. (frustrated)
(04:20:06) cbj1: i suppose the ssh commands were only in there for a few days.
(04:23:28) vsrinivas: haha
(04:28:47) cbj1: a ssh serve would be cool.
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