Conversation with #inferno at Fri Mar 11 14:57:07 2011 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(17:09:45) powerman: is anyone tried to use file2chan with DMEXCL?
(17:10:58) powerman: in case I know there will be only client for that server and wanna avoid tracking fids on server
(17:12:54) powerman: in theory, file2chan followed by stat(DMEXCL) should protect such server from occasional connect by another one client
(17:42:20) powerman: another question is what happens if between file2chan and stat several clients connects to this server ;)
(17:57:31) mjl-: haven't tried it
(17:57:43) mjl-: i suppose you could just try it? :)
(17:57:57) mjl-: should only be a few lines
(17:58:13) mjl-: anyway, i would probably keep track of the first fid, then error out if i see another
(17:58:19) mjl-: that'll teach the misbehaving users :)
(18:01:08) mjl-: btw
(18:01:23) mjl-: do we have any ideas for inferno projects for the google summer of code?
(18:02:05) mjl-: so far i see this:
(18:02:05) mjl-: http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/gsoc-2011-ideas/index.html
(18:02:10) mjl-: with:
(18:02:10) mjl-:     * SVGdraw fileserver in Javascript (Skip Tavakkolian)
(18:02:10) mjl-: Adapt the existing JS implementation of Styx to use Websockets and remove the requirement for JSON-ification of Styx/9P messages. Devise a svgdraw fileserver that plan9/inferno clients could manipulate. Enhance the fileserver to provide the keyboard and mouse devices. 
(18:02:29) mjl-: not sure what that entails though :)
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(18:17:36) anth_r: mjl-: the wikifs one is both. a few others could be both/either.
(18:18:17) mjl-: is anyone using the inferno wikifs?
(18:18:31) mjl-: ah, i see inferno is mentioned in the description.  i should read more closely
(18:19:08) anth_r: i'd be much, much more inclined to use it if this project were complete!
(18:19:24) anth_r: dealing with the minimal syntax in the existing wikifs is way too much of a pain.
(18:19:54) anth_r: i'm trying to finish the student application template right now, and there isn't really a way to do it well.
(18:21:17) mjl-: how so? (no way to do it well)
(18:21:51) anth_r: not counting the page title, you get h3 headers only - no way to do anything else.
(18:22:00) anth_r: you can do unnumbered lists only, and a restricted form.
(18:22:16) mjl-: i see
(18:22:25) mjl-: i agree there is lots to improve
(18:22:30) anth_r: link syntax is limited (how to reference an internal page other than by the exact name?)
(18:22:48) anth_r: it's fine for many things, but it hits limits fast.
(18:22:57) sl: i ended up just using a full URL for internal pages
(18:23:02) mjl-: i hope there are enough students out there who know a bit of limbo.  otherwise writing in it will be a lot to ask.
(18:23:07) sl: if the name was complex enough to trip up the linking syntax
(18:23:24) sl: oops, you guys are referring to something inferno specific, correct?
(18:23:32) sl: i misunderstood that you were talking about the plan 9 wiki.
(18:23:51) mjl-: oh, i had in mind that they might be the same
(18:23:53) mjl-: in functionality
(18:23:55) anth_r: i believe the syntax is the same.
(18:24:08) mjl-: caerwyn used to have a wikifs online, i think inferno's
(18:24:09) anth_r: (they at least were initially)
(18:28:06) anth_r: while this doesn't affect functionality, i also just noticed yesterday that the html output has one word per line. that's not great for debugging or readability.
(18:38:23) sl: i never noticed that before. in <div class='body'>
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