Conversation with #inferno at Sat Oct 19 20:28:57 2013 on powerman@irc.freenode.net (irc)
(20:28:57) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by mennis at 17:30:16 on 12/28/09
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(09:01:36) octetta: periodic check... anyone here going to iwp9 in athens at the end of the month?
(09:02:51) anth_x: i am
(09:03:09) octetta: cool!
(09:03:39) octetta: anth_x, are you presenting anything this time?
(09:05:48) anth_x: nope, not this year. sadly, nearly nothing i've been working on for the past year would be of much interest to this audience. 
(09:06:14) anth_x: well, i need to do a survey of who's going to be there who was involved in GSoC. i may give a wrap-up report, if nobody else relevant wants to.
(09:08:19) anth_x: i just now finished my mayan calendar program. it runs on plan9. i could present that. :-)
(09:10:18) qrstuv: here's a ddate port: http://www.www.9paste.tk/qrstuv/ddate.c
(09:11:28) octetta: cool
(09:13:08) qrstuv: normally i'd get rid of ifdefs and stuff, but i think these are in the discordian spirit
(09:13:29) anth_x: that's some weird code.
(09:13:58) anth_x: i prefer the mayan version: three calendar systems, including one where both the day number *and* the month name increment *daily*.
(09:14:27) anth_x: : iota;  ./o.mayan %Z%n
(09:14:27) anth_x: 8 Ak'b'al 1 Sak' 13.0.0.15.3
(09:16:14) anth_x: so, yesterday, today, and tomorrow (for local US-Pacific time) would be:
(09:16:15) anth_x: 7 Ik' 0 Sak' 13.0.0.15.2
(09:16:15) anth_x: 8 Ak'b'al 1 Sak' 13.0.0.15.3
(09:16:15) anth_x: 9 K'an 2 Sak' 13.0.0.15.4
(09:17:14) anth_x: all the numbers start at zero, except one of them, because, well, eh.
(09:17:39) qrstuv: i should add these to my log timestamper
(09:18:44) qrstuv: it's a little boring as it is: http://www.www.9paste.tk/qrstuv/timestamp.c
(09:19:10) anth_x: have you seen my datefmt.c?
(09:19:15) qrstuv: nope
(09:20:13) anth_x: does much of the unix date stuff. /n/sources/contrib/anothy/src/cmd/datefmt.c
(09:20:47) anth_x: there's a limbo version up there, but it had a bug at one point and i'm honestly not sure if i corrected it; i switched back to the c version for unrelated reasons.
(09:22:17) anth_x:  /*
(09:22:17) anth_x:   * There's a lot of these. I've done most of POSIX except
(09:22:17) anth_x:   * locales (EO) and the year-by-weeks stuff (gGUVW), plus.
(09:22:17) anth_x:   * here: aAbBcCdDe F  hHIjklmMn prRsStTu v w xXyYzZ%+ ,.
(09:22:17) anth_x:   * C89: aAbBc d       HIj  mM  p   S   U  wWxXyY Z%
(09:22:17) anth_x:   * C04: aAbBcCdDeEFgGhHIj  mM OprR S TuU VwWxXyYzZ%
(09:22:17) anth_x:   * OS X: aAbBcCdDeEFgGhHIjklmMnOprRsStTuUvVwWxXyYzZ%+
(09:22:18) anth_x:   * Intentionally "stuck" in "C locale".
(09:22:18) anth_x:   */
(09:23:25) anth_x: i really wanted to use the mayan runes for the % codes in mayan.c, but they haven't gone through the unicode standard yet.
(09:27:01) qrstuv: i inevitably forget and screw up date formats, so i don't use them
(09:27:46) anth_x: i only really use a very few. the rest were… well, i got bored one night.
(09:52:26) anth_x: mayan.c is on sources if anyone wants to take a look.
(09:53:02) anth_x: qrstuv: your timestamper reminds me of one i got from sqweek (that's not you, is it?) and modified. i just put my modified version up in that same directory.
(09:53:15) anth_x: now i'm going to bed.
(09:54:20) qrstuv: it doesn't have enough tables to be mine
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(19:16:59) haole: I just installed acme-sac for Windows and I was wondering how do I include extra tools to my PATH? does it work like that? I want easy access to my git binary
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(21:58:56) haole: how do I configure the search path for binaries on acme-sac for Windows? I want to integrate git and some other tools
(22:03:32) powerman: haole: I didn't use neither acme-sac nor windows, but can you please explain in more details what's your problem is?
(22:04:05) powerman: do you try to execute windows commands using `os` command in acme-sac, what what?
(22:04:08) haole: powerman: I want to middle-click select something like "git" and have acme execute git for me
(22:04:24) haole: this is not happening right now - I don't know how to add extra search paths for external tools like git
(22:04:33) powerman: and by git you mean host os (windows) command git.exe?
(22:04:45) haole: powerman: no and yes
(22:05:59) powerman: :) so yes or no? what is git command, physically?
(22:06:17) haole: sorry, I misunderstood your question
(22:06:28) haole: I want to execute "git.exe" from my host system inside acme
(22:06:31) powerman: ok
(22:06:54) haole: git is at C:\Users\myuser\Local\Git\bin\git.exe
(22:07:18) haole: I`ll need to use Windows on this project so I'm trying to make it more bearable with acme :)
(22:07:32) powerman: then, if you wanna call some host os commands in same way as usual inferno command you probably have to write trivial sh-scripts wrappers for these commands, which will execute them using `os` inferno command
(22:08:06) haole: powerman: no problem! where do I have to put those files? I couldn't find proper documentation explaining the structure of acme-sac
(22:08:28) haole: I understand it's and Inferno OS virtual guest, but I don't know the details
(22:08:32) powerman: put them anywhere you like in your home dir and then bind directory with these scripts after /dis/
(22:12:02) haole: powerman: how do I create a new file on acme? I've read lots of stuff but I think I missed this one lol
(22:12:19) powerman: haole: here is example how to do it (in shell):
(22:12:32) powerman: ; printf
(22:12:32) powerman: sh: printf: './printf' file does not exist
(22:12:45) powerman: ; mkdir dis
(22:12:45) powerman: ; cat >dis/printf
(22:12:45) powerman: #!/dis/sh
(22:12:45) powerman: os printf $*
(22:12:45) powerman: [Ctrl-D]
(22:12:54) powerman: ; chmod +x dis/printf
(22:13:01) powerman: ; ls -l dis
(22:13:01) powerman: --rwx--x--x U 4 powerman powerman 23 Oct 21 22:10 dis/printf
(22:13:07) powerman: ; printf
(22:13:07) powerman: sh: printf: './printf' file does not exist
(22:13:13) powerman: ; bind -a ./dis/ /dis/
(22:13:22) powerman: ; printf 'Hello, %s\n' Alex
(22:13:22) powerman: Hello, Alex
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(22:15:20) powerman: haole: as for instructions how to create new files in acme - I think it's enough to click on "New", and then give it some name while doing "Save", but I've tried to use acme many years ago so don't remember exact details
(22:15:42) haole: thanks for all the details!
(22:15:43) haole: powerman: it was quite easy using Put... I forgot about it
(22:16:43) haole: is this "os" prefix literal? I don't see it in my environment
(22:16:55) haole: oh, I see... it is for a shell session
(22:17:10) powerman: and good luck with acme! :) I'm too used to syntax highlight and fixed-width fonts, so I failed to use acme
(22:17:37) powerman: os is os(1) - standard command, located in /dis/os.dis
(22:18:07) haole: powerman: fixed width fonts was easy to configure
(22:18:11) powerman: I know
(22:18:21) haole: syntax highlighting is something that I`ll discover if I can live without :D
(22:18:23) haole: specially for comments
(22:19:01) powerman: btw, if you have troubles calling some commands using os(1) - try to redirect it's stdin/stdout/stderr to /dev/null (if you doesn't need input/output from executed host os command
(22:19:23) haole: thanks! I still need to learn how to launch the shell, though! lol
(22:19:31) haole: just tried /dis/sh -i under acme
(22:19:36) haole: and I got "%"
(22:19:43) powerman: i think it is
(22:19:49) powerman: just with % instead of ;
(22:20:05) haole: but acme won't send my commands when I press return
(22:20:13) haole: it will just go to a new line :(
(22:26:03) haole: powerman: ha! win sh -i
(22:26:06) haole: nice :D this is fun
(22:26:16) haole: let's see if my productivity is acceptable :)
(22:26:16) powerman: haole: not sure how to run sh in acme, but you can just enter some commands in any text window and then select/execute them using button3
(22:26:38) haole: powerman: did it ^
(22:27:27) powerman: looks like "win sh" also works
(22:29:28) haole: I hope it still has some development activity
(22:29:41) haole: I've never touched anything inferno related
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