Conversation with #inferno at Tue Nov  4 08:26:17 2014 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc)
(08:26:17) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by mennis at 17:30:16 on 12/28/09
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(10:02:01) Dimonax: I'm curious to know what compilers have been ported to Inferno. Is there a list somewhere? 
(10:04:50) powerman: Dimonax: there was a project to convert between DIS bytecode and JVM, but I'm not sure about it current status
(10:06:33) Dimonax: I don't expect GCC to be ported anytime in the near future, but it seems like there are plenty of stand alone compilers/VMs/Runtimes that can be "Infernoized", if that term makes sense.
(10:07:54) powerman: also there was a converter from C to limbo, limited of course, because you can't do everything you can do in C in Limbo
(10:08:28) powerman: except these, you can develop for Inferno using only sh or Limbo, plus develop low-level "drivers" in C
(10:09:41) Dimonax: Wonder if a port of E18 and Free Pascal is possible.
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(10:23:01) Dimonax: Man...everyone must be asleep.
(10:24:07) bjorkintosh: Dimonax, yeah.
(10:24:17) bjorkintosh: what's new?
(10:25:45) Dimonax: Thinking about porting a new GUI to Plan9.
(10:39:42) bjorkintosh: which one?
(10:40:56) Dimonax: Looking at Enlightenment. I could integrated it just a neatly as the current rio interface.
(10:43:42) bjorkintosh: Enlightenment? 
(10:43:44) bjorkintosh: it's massive!
(10:43:50) bjorkintosh: what's neat or unix-like about it?
(10:44:20) Dimonax: I thought this was Inferno/Plan9, not Unix.
(10:45:19) bjorkintosh: sure.
(10:45:20) Dimonax: Oh, and it can be made quite tiny.
(10:45:28) bjorkintosh: enlightenment?
(10:45:43) bjorkintosh: what don't you like about rio?
(10:45:59) Dimonax: I've used it on an arm microcontroller.
(10:46:33) bjorkintosh: yeah but what don't you like about it?
(10:47:32) Dimonax: Well, no accelerated graphics, rendering anything more than fonts is slow.
(10:47:47) bjorkintosh: you don't say.
(10:48:28) Dimonax: Data visualization apps are non-existent, as one might expect.
(10:48:33) bjorkintosh: :)
(10:48:36) bjorkintosh: no one's written them.
(10:48:53) Dimonax: What about Computer Aided Drafting?
(10:49:03) bjorkintosh: see the bit about no one having written them.
(10:49:43) Dimonax: The chicken and egg scenario. Nobody writes them because the GUI wont support them.
(10:49:50) bjorkintosh: are you sure about that?
(10:50:18) Dimonax: Or at the least I should import a MiniGL.
(10:51:38) bjorkintosh: you should!
(10:51:44) bjorkintosh: eager for a project?
(10:52:33) Dimonax: Even thought I "like" rio, I don't like it. It forces me to work a certain way. I can configure E to work exactly like rio, or any other way, depending on the project and mood.
(10:53:49) Dimonax: Is the Inferno/Plan9 community looking for a MiniGL?
(10:59:54) bjorkintosh: provide one and see :)
(11:00:30) bjorkintosh: configure E?
(11:00:50) bjorkintosh: i didn't know it was that flexible. 
(11:01:08) Dimonax: Yeah. It is.
(11:01:42) Dimonax: It was designed to be a "desktop shell".
(11:02:27) Dimonax: I've had it running on an arm microcontroller.
(11:03:01) bjorkintosh: how slowly?
(11:03:14) bjorkintosh: and do you mean on a raspberry pi?
(11:03:31) Dimonax: It looks "big" because of all the options. But it can be slimmed down and become quite tiny.
(11:03:50) Dimonax: No. A Teensy 3.1 using SPI.
(11:05:19) Dimonax: Gotta go. But I'll be back.
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