Conversation with #inferno at Sun Feb 22 03:49:28 2015 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc)
(03:49:28) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by mennis at 17:30:16 on 12/28/09
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(22:59:56) SCHAAP137: mk builds with a few warnings, but dumps core when running on OpenBSD 5.6-stable i386 GENERIC.MP
(23:20:05) SCHAAP137: http://pastie.org/9975961
(23:34:16) SCHAAP137: i'm suspecting the time_t changes in OpenBSD made it like this
(00:53:34) henesy: hm
(00:55:13) SCHAAP137: in utils/mk/run.c, if i change long to long long for t, mk does compile and runs without core dumping
(00:56:05) SCHAAP137: line 74 and 283
(00:56:57) powerman: that was easy. :) if you find a way to compile inferno on 64-bit *bsd - let me know please.
(00:57:57) SCHAAP137: tried compiling the system but most executables seem to fail, just limbo, mk, asm, iyacc and ndate
(00:58:05) SCHAAP137: those succeed
(00:58:28) SCHAAP137: and data2c
(00:58:39) SCHAAP137: still trying to find out what's failing and why :P
(01:00:43) powerman: I see similar issue with Win7: https://code.google.com/p/inferno-os/issues/detail?id=307
(01:00:57) SCHAAP137: i have it running on 7 sp x64
(01:00:59) SCHAAP137: *sp1
(01:01:09) SCHAAP137: needed a few changes
(01:01:47) SCHAAP137: ah wait, that might be it, let's see
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(01:04:40) SCHAAP137: hm, same results
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(01:29:14) SCHAAP137: yeah a real 64 bit inferno would be cool indeed
(01:45:03) powerman: no, I'm not talking about 64-bit inferno, I'm talking about compiling 32-bit inferno on 64-bit os. works fine on Win and Linux, but I failed to get working toolchain for this on freebsd
(01:57:33) SCHAAP137: i know that on openbsd crosscompiling is not supported by default, not sure about freebsd
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(19:56:11) SCHAAP137: hm, rfork() has disappeared from OpenBSD
(19:56:16) SCHAAP137: explains my compiler errors
(19:59:26) qrstuv: why do you keep talking about compiler errors without posting them?
(21:07:00) SCHAAP137: because i'm already aware of what is failing and why
(21:08:49) SCHAAP137: when I have enough information to actually call for help or suggestions properly, i will do that
(21:08:59) SCHAAP137: but it's not the case yet
(21:09:13) qrstuv: so you're pretty much muttering to yourself on irc
(21:10:03) SCHAAP137: i'd say this was probing for any OpenBSD-specific responses, to see if others here recognized the same issue without going into details
(21:10:36) SCHAAP137: but I understand your point, you're right, i mutter on IRC a lot
(21:11:09) powerman: SCHAAP137: it's ok. at least we know someone is still doing something with inferno :)
(21:12:51) SCHAAP137: i find it an extremely interesting project powerman, i'm learning a lot from it, from a programming perspective
(21:13:22) qrstuv: all my programs are running smoothly, so i haven't had to touch inferno for months
(21:32:32) SCHAAP137: makes sense
(21:50:47) SCHAAP137: i can summarize my findings: I suspect some changes in OpenBSD made it impossible to compile Inferno on it currently. One of the culprits is time_t being long long, but this was easily fixed by replacing 'long' with 'time_t' in line 74 and 283 of utils/mk/run.c, now mk compiles
(21:51:06) SCHAAP137: next issue is having no rfork() anymore, this seems a little more complex to tackle
(21:51:40) SCHAAP137: my (not so educated) guess is that to function on OpenBSD, it would need to use the pthread interface, pthread_create() and such, but still no idea how to do it
(21:51:51) SCHAAP137: staring at emu/OpenBSD/os.c and pondering
(21:53:06) powerman: isn't it already used for some other OS? maybe some copy&paste from other emu/*/os.c helps?
(21:53:46) SCHAAP137: possibly, have not checked it yet, good suggestion
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(17:48:50) SCHAAP137: allright, posted the issue on the project page for OpenBSD 386, if more info is needed please ask
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(16:35:57) SCHAAP137: with regard to issue 322, i can find only _one_ example of a program that used rfork(3) and moved to __tfork(3) on OpenBSD, which is Golang
(16:36:43) SCHAAP137: see if i can find some clues there, for changing emu/OpenBSD/rfork_thread.S and emu/OpenBSD/os.c
(23:12:59) anth_x: we're not in GSoC this year, sadly.
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(01:24:31) henesy: :[
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(13:07:05) bjorkintosh: anth_x, does anyone use inferno at all these days?
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(17:11:27) anth_x: bjorkintosh: yes.
(17:11:40) bjorkintosh: what for? 
(17:13:43) anth_x: um, stuff? it's pretty general-purpose. you'd have to ask the people doing things. i don't have an index.
(17:14:16) anth_x: i use it for resource sharing. right now i'm using it to get around NAT issues.
(17:14:52) anth_x: (i'm really happy plan9 and inferno have interoperable /net structures)
(17:16:24) bjorkintosh: ah cool.
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