Conversation with #inferno at Sun Aug 21 01:03:48 2016 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc) (01:03:48) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by anth at 19:45:51 on 04/07/15 (01:04:39) pfallenop left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (01:08:28) bipul [~bipul7@2400:6180:100:d0::65:5001] entered the room. (01:21:05) pfallenop [~pfallenop@unaffiliated/contempt] entered the room. (01:54:19) bipul left the room (quit: Changing host). (01:54:19) bipul [~bipul7@linuxpadawan/padawan/bipul] entered the room. (06:03:02) pr left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 265 seconds). (06:03:09) pr [~pr@sidewind.re] entered the room. (06:55:00) amonk [~amonk@unaffiliated/amonk] entered the room. (12:08:54) pr left the room (quit: Changing host). (12:08:54) pr [~pr@unaffiliated/pr] entered the room. (20:18:24) david_boddie [~david@cm-84.215.147.225.getinternet.no] entered the room. (20:34:23) Fish left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 250 seconds). (20:43:09) Fish [~Fish@cartwheel.9grid.fr] entered the room. (00:04:22) david_boddie: Is anyone using Inferno natively on a PC? (00:13:28) doublec: david_boddie: I don't know of anyone (00:14:00) doublec: david_boddie: I've often wondered if it could be ported to a phone (00:14:15) doublec: (Hellaphone exists but is hosted inferno on an Android base) (00:20:28) david_boddie: It would be nice to see a native port. (00:20:56) david_boddie: I saw the Raspberry Pi port and started to try and port that to another ARM-based board but got stuck. (00:23:20) rogpeppe [~rog@79-75-244-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room. (00:24:36) david_boddie: So I took a step back and thought about running it on an old laptop I have lying around. (00:25:28) doublec: there was a port to the Nintendo DS too (00:27:07) doublec: david_boddie: have you tried seeing if it'll boot on the PC? (00:27:59) david_boddie: I can boot it OK. I initially made a floppy image and tested it with qemu. (00:28:10) david_boddie: Then I made a hard disk image and tested it with qemu before booting it on the laptop. (00:28:21) david_boddie: The problem now is getting the display to work. (00:28:49) david_boddie: I mean the wm. Obviously, the shell works. (00:29:14) doublec: Oh nice (00:29:57) doublec: Did the network work? (00:30:29) ***doublec wonders if it could be booted on a VPS (00:30:36) david_boddie: Not sure about that. I'll have to check. At some point I hope to write up what I tried. (01:14:32) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds). (01:26:19) david_boddie left the room ("Konversation terminated!"). (07:27:52) deuteron [~deuteron@118.211.45.250] entered the room. (10:36:19) rogpeppe [~rog@79-75-244-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room. (10:51:36) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Quit: Konversation terminated!). (10:51:57) rogpeppe [~rog@79-75-244-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room. (14:20:04) leetspete1 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds). (18:44:27) david_boddie [~david@cm-84.215.147.225.getinternet.no] entered the room. (19:06:03) qrstuv left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds). (19:06:48) qrstuv [~heh@104.240.113.223] entered the room. (20:35:14) leetspete1 [~none@cpe-172-113-33-131.socal.res.rr.com] entered the room. (22:51:16) rogpeppe1 [~rog@79-75-244-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room. (22:51:54) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 250 seconds). (23:37:55) rogpeppe1 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 244 seconds). (00:03:36) rogpeppe [~rog@79-75-244-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room. (01:34:37) david_boddie: Is there something I'm missing with the shell? What's the equivalent of Ctrl-C to kill the foreground process? (02:04:21) powerman: there is no such thing (02:04:48) powerman: in wm you can open second sh and use kill (02:08:48) david_boddie: powerman: OK. Thanks. I'm still learning. (02:10:21) powerman: also in wm you can use alternative sh which is able to kill foreground proc: https://bitbucket.org/mjl/wmrun (02:12:14) david_boddie: That looks interesting. Especially the input history - I'm really missing that at the moment. (02:13:55) david_boddie: powerman: I see you also have also written some interesting articles. I'll have to bookmark them for later. :-) (02:16:18) powerman: you can get input history in text mode (emu-g) using external tool rlwrap (02:17:20) powerman: I'm using this setup (wrapper in ~/bin/ used to get rid of "Killed" when emu exits: (02:17:34) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 244 seconds). (02:17:43) powerman: $ cat ~/bin/emu-g (02:17:43) powerman: #!/bin/bash (02:17:43) powerman: /usr/inferno/Linux/386/bin/emu-g "$@" /dev/null (02:17:49) powerman: $ alias emu-g (02:17:49) powerman: alias emu-g='rlwrap -a -r ~/bin/emu-g' (02:20:54) powerman: sadly, I don't have spare time for Inferno in last 1.5 years, unable to continue using it in production, and switched to Go as result :( (02:21:41) david_boddie: Well, at least they come from the same family. :-) (02:22:44) david_boddie: I still haven't learned Limbo yet. :-( I managed to avoid learning Go, despite being asked to proof-read a textbook about it. :-/ (02:23:07) powerman: Inferno is much more simple and clean. But Go is much more suitable for production. I'd love to see a lot of things from Go backported to Inferno, but that's never happens. :( (02:30:47) david_boddie: powerman: I found your IRC logs. It seems like the older logs contain more discussion, so perhaps you're not the only one with less time. :-) (02:31:19) powerman: I think so (02:40:11) david_boddie: powerman: Thanks for your help. I'll continue my journey with Inferno tomorrow. :-) (02:42:09) david_boddie left the room ("Konversation terminated!"). (10:23:19) rogpeppe [~rog@79-75-244-167.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room. (13:31:15) fnodeuser left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 276 seconds). (13:39:07) fnodeuser [~irssiuser@ppp-2-86-143-42.home.otenet.gr] entered the room. (16:43:14) bipul left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds). (16:44:00) bipul [~bipul7@139.59.5.42] entered the room. (19:18:21) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 276 seconds). (20:18:07) rogpeppe [~rog@62.255.11.19] entered the room. (20:27:57) bipul left the room (quit: Changing host). (20:27:57) bipul [~bipul7@linuxpadawan/padawan/bipul] entered the room. (21:25:12) pfallenop left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 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