Conversation with #inferno at Wed Apr 1 21:14:16 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc) (21:14:50) soul9: i thought you had been already directed to the mail archives, where this question was answered more times than it's decent to answer a question... (21:15:42) soul9: if not, then do it now ;-) (21:17:38) bdheeman: sorry, forget to check that (22:26:46) bdheeman left the room. (23:33:59) tombohannon left the room (quit: ). (23:34:33) aguent left the room (quit: "Leaving"). (23:41:39) npe left the room (quit: ). (23:43:30) coriolan left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection). (23:51:14) tombohannon [i=none@adsl-070-147-243-251.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] entered the room. (00:10:19) tombohannon left the room (quit: ). (00:15:41) nubee [i=7c7cc852@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a0fc1b35547c7f77] entered the room. (00:16:17) nubee: hi...i m running inferno on vista... (00:16:26) nubee: when i use ftree to access a file i get the error ftree : cannot plumb (00:16:36) nubee: e in fact it doesnt seem to plumb anything...... (00:16:49) nubee: any idea...whats wrong? (00:17:42) anothy_x: is the plumber running? (00:18:01) nubee: how do u check that...? (00:18:30) anothy_x: ps, to start. (00:19:57) nubee: no...when i try to run....it says the can't read /usr//lib/plumbing : 'user does not exist (00:21:19) anothy_x: er, what? is that the literal string ""? where'd that come from? (00:21:46) anothy_x: what is your user name on the system? (00:22:05) nubee: oh...no...its the user account that i m logged into in vista... (00:22:30) nubee: user name is rok (00:22:40) anothy_x: so what's the literal message you get? (00:23:58) nubee: when i start plumber i get plumb : can't read /usr/rok/lib/plumbing: '/usr/rok' does not exist (00:24:36) nubee: in the user folder there is only inferno....there is nothing named rok.... (00:26:30) anothy_x: ah, okay then. you need to create a home directory (and some supporting files) for yourself. (00:26:43) anothy_x: i don't remember the officially sanctioned way of doing so, actually. (00:27:09) anothy_x: for now, i'd suggest either copying /usr/inferno, or just running inferno as the user inferno. (00:27:20) nubee: doesn't it get created when i install.... (00:27:37) anothy_x: apparently not! (00:27:46) anothy_x: i don't believe it tries to guess what user you want to run it as. (00:27:53) nubee: as there was no occurrence...of this problem any where...when i googled... (00:28:25) anothy_x: on unix, when i install i symlink inferno's /usr to wherever my unix home directories are. (00:30:09) nubee: thx...will try that... (00:30:46) nubee: another question....how do u connect to the host network... (00:30:53) nubee: or can we? (00:32:16) anothy_x: what do you mean? (00:32:30) anothy_x: hosted inferno always uses the host network. (00:33:02) powerman: nubee: hosted inferno is just like usual application - it already has access to host network. you don't need to setup network interfaces/routing for this. but you have to run ndb/cs to get host name to ip resolving inside inferno. (00:33:31) nubee: oh...thx... (00:35:44) nubee: copying the files from /usr/inferno seem to work ...thx (01:19:43) nubee: how do u add proxy to the network.....any idea...? (01:40:10) nubee: anybody? (01:44:22) tombohannon [n=tombohan@h117.255.18.98.static.ip.windstream.net] entered the room. (01:44:44) powerman: nubee: what you mean as proxy? (01:45:28) anothy_x: you can see charon(1) for info on how to set the http proxy for it. i'm not aware of anything more general. (01:46:23) nubee: i use a proxy for internet access.....but charon dosent seem to notice... (01:46:47) anothy_x: there's a config file. read the man page. (01:47:03) nubee: k... (01:50:25) nubee: surprisingly...all the config files in the given locations are missing...... 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(11:18:00) C-Keen: most people don't realise that irc works asynchronously as well (11:23:16) soul9: well, he waited something like a minute (11:23:22) soul9: without even asking a question (11:23:43) soul9: i don't know how people think of irc (11:23:49) soul9: like telephone maybe? (11:27:34) anothy_x: like actual rooms, i think. they walk in, ask a question, and if nobody responds right away, they assume a response won't come. (11:27:49) underspecified left the room (quit: ). (11:27:58) anothy_x: gah. i should've been in bed hours ago. (11:28:01) anothy_x: g'night, all. (11:29:19) C-Keen: he waited 15 minutes (11:41:51) soul9: nite anothy_olpc (11:42:03) soul9: C-Keen, [06:44:37] -Is anyone around that might answer a question ? (11:42:03) soul9: [06:45:50] -I guess not ... (11:42:17) soul9: that's 1m13 (11:50:05) powerman: from other view, that may looks this way: 1) somebody enter the room, ask "anybody here?", wait minute and leave; 2) 20 minutes later everybody in the root: "hahahaha". and who's looks more funny now? ;-) (12:15:42) soul9: :-) (12:15:46) soul9: both (12:23:40) soul9: anyone got an electronic version of any of the inferno books? (12:24:16) ***soul9 needs ircfs, all the irc bouncers suck :-( (12:27:48) powerman: soul9: I have IPWL. Also there exists PDF created from "Principles of Operating Systems: Design and Applications" on google books. (12:27:53) C-Keen: soul9: on pip's site there is his book (12:28:08) ***soul9 needs an url (12:28:17) soul9: i don't know all them great people :-( (12:28:29) powerman: http://books.google.ru/books?id=B5NC5-UfMMwC (12:28:53) powerman: http://rapidshare.com/files/213291011/Brian_L_Stuart-Principles_of_Operating_Systems_DEMO_.pdf (12:29:01) powerman: http://www.scribd.com/doc/13628056/Brian-L-StuartPrinciples-of-Operating-Systems-Demo (12:29:07) soul9: thank you! (12:29:21) soul9: err, you can't download books from scrobd can you? (12:29:24) soul9: scribd (12:30:11) powerman: http://powerman.name/tmp/ipwl.pdf (12:31:16) powerman: first 3 links are for "Principles of Operating Systems: Design and Applications". as for scribd - it doesn't work in Linux flash player, so I don't know it features. use rapidshare link to get it. (12:31:51) soul9: aah (12:31:54) soul9: that's the same (12:31:58) soul9: ah, yes, i see (12:32:01) soul9: okay, great! (12:32:01) soul9: thanks (12:33:14) C-Keen: soul9: http://www.gemusehaken.org/ipwl/ (12:33:24) soul9: thank you (12:33:59) C-Keen: soul9: there is also the source code available (12:34:08) C-Keen: soul9: and pip's lecture slides are also nice (12:34:32) soul9: who's pip? (12:35:05) C-Keen: Phillip Stanley-Marbell (12:35:29) soul9: you prolly mean in the 'Related Talks' section on that site eh (12:35:43) soul9: yeah, i'll just get all the papers and sort them out when i'm not at work ;-) (12:35:45) soul9: thanks (12:35:48) C-Keen: soul9: No 'Course Materials' (12:36:04) soul9: ah (12:36:09) soul9: ok, got it (12:42:24) olegfink left the room (quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). (12:52:36) soul9: for i in `seq 19`; do wget "http://www.gemusehaken.org/ipwl/98-023/lecture$i.pdf"; done (12:52:49) soul9: man, i don't get bash's syntax, but eh... (12:54:23) C-Keen: oh well :) (12:54:45) C-Keen: you could use rc :) (12:58:03) soul9: yeah, i do use rc :-) (12:58:16) soul9: i just marvel at the bash syntax every time i have to use it :-D (13:13:09) andguent: oh wow...ipwl as pdf (13:13:11) andguent: nice (13:14:23) C-Keen: I prefer the hardcopy version though (13:14:48) andguent: i have the book (13:14:59) andguent: still i travel a lot and it's nice to have a mobile backup (13:15:59) C-Keen: I don't blame you :) (13:37:52) npe [n=npe@126.251.21.208] entered the room. (14:03:21) npe left the room (quit: "Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info/"). (14:09:37) mjl-: hmm (14:09:55) mjl-: when a jit'ed program crashes, stack -v shows PC's (14:10:13) mjl-: does anyone know if those are somehow related to the instructions in the .dis? (14:10:23) mjl-: i guess not, otherwise the .sbl would probably be helpful (and it isn't) (14:11:07) mjl-: but still, the PC's must come from some place... (14:23:37) gualteri: mjl-, you can also use emu -cn, with n>1 to get more verbose traces (14:33:37) gualteri: not a direct answer to the question, but maybe the traces can give + info to understand whats happening (14:40:11) tombohannon left the room (quit: ). (15:04:57) olegfink [n=olegfink@snupt.com] entered the room. (15:12:12) olegfink: hm, does DSi still need slot2 cards to do anything useful or will it able to boot off SD? (15:12:20) KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/developer/KillerX] entered the room. (15:14:52) gualteri: theres no slot2, so cards use slot1, but theres many people awaiting for boot from sd (15:15:49) olegfink: er, mixed up slot1 and slot2 (15:16:08) olegfink: so nintendo's going to offer games on SD? :-) (15:17:02) olegfink: I've just re-read inferno-ds pages and source, it's really impressive. one true inferno machine. 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(15:39:58) gualteri: about having to wait/pay more, the dsi is released tomorrow, i've already booked mine for 170e, which is a bit more expensive than ds-lite (~40e or so) (15:41:47) gualteri: and about making sense inferno-wise, here're the official specs: http://translate.google.es/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fja.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNintendo_DSi&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=es&ie=UTF-8 (15:42:55) gualteri: the most interesting bits for me are: (15:43:00) gualteri: ds 66 mhz which really where 33mhz due to bugs when hitting main mem when dsi is 133mhz (15:44:09) gualteri: 16 mb RAM (when ds was 4 mb), bigger screens, wifi with 11 mpbs with wpa support, improved audio and cameras ... (15:47:07) gualteri: but being realistic, all that nice hardware: wifi, cameras, audio will come without docs, so people will have to RE it. and that depends on how many people actually buys a dsi and starts tinkering with it (15:50:06) olegfink: and also smaller battery (15:50:34) gualteri: not exactly, the cpu has +horsepower and screens are bigger, so the battery seems to suffer more (15:50:59) olegfink: from what I've read it's 850 vs 1100 mAh (15:51:18) gualteri: ok, then you know more than i do :) (15:52:40) olegfink: The DSi only has a 840mAh battery compared to 1000mAh for the DS Lite. (15:53:08) olegfink: ds lite doesn't do wpa? (15:53:37) gualteri: yep, ds only does wep (15:56:04) olegfink: okay, are you going for a DSi yourself? (15:56:22) olegfink: I think I've finally decided to get a DS, but which one? (15:59:40) gualteri: sure!, tomorrow in the morning i'm getting a dsi to start playing (16:00:55) olegfink: happy europeans (16:01:24) olegfink: by the way, how possible is a plan9 or inferno port to those cheap arm9 car gps thingies? (16:04:02) gualteri: btw if you get one, be sure to get an european dsi one, because otherwise you'll get menus/apps in japanese language which at least for me its hard to read (16:04:34) olegfink: that probably doesn't matter much for inferno? (16:07:04) gualteri: yes, but usually the app/code that boots inferno will be japanese too, and i'd prefer to avoid that (16:12:12) gdiaz_ios left the room (quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). (16:19:29) gdiaz_ios [n=none@217.14.40.23] entered the room. (16:20:30) gdiaz_ios: hello (17:09:02) npe [n=npe@219.39.114.109] entered the room. (17:11:00) underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] entered the room. (17:13:57) npe left the room (quit: Connection reset by peer). 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(17:54:36) gdiaz_ios: well there are two odbc things (17:54:45) gdiaz_ios: the odbc fs server is one, and that works (17:54:54) gdiaz_ios: the other is the dbsrv and db module (17:55:05) gdiaz_ios: which uses the infdb program on host (17:55:14) gdiaz_ios: i guess odbc is just newer and it is the way to go (17:55:37) gdiaz_ios: i was trying to decide which one is the way to go (17:55:56) gdiaz_ios: because having a module interface is very convenient as i do not need to create one for myself (17:56:21) anothy_x: er, sorry. i'm going to be no real help here: i was thinking of dbfs and rawdbfs. :-( (17:57:51) gdiaz_ios: oh i see those are file databases i was speaking about odbc. . . (17:59:33) anothy_x: yeah, i never really used that. sorry. (17:59:55) gualteri left the room (quit: "leaving"). (18:00:17) gdiaz_ios: i'm unable to find any single program which uses odbc or db(7) module. . . (18:04:25) gdiaz_ios: ok, the way to go is the odbc tool instead of the db(7) module. . . 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(13:20:08) aguent [n=andre@p4FF65F0D.dip.t-dialin.net] entered the room. (13:33:21) gdiaz_ios: where is ERRMAX defined in inferno? i need to import the constant. . . (13:35:22) gdiaz_ios: oh that's not inferno thing, that's the C thing. . . . too bad. . . (13:36:10) gdiaz_ios: how are errors handled in inferno? i supposed there would be something like error() from plan9. . (13:38:02) uriel: exceptions? (13:38:19) andguent left the room (quit: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)). (13:39:26) gdiaz_ios: how i can fill %r in inferno? (13:50:35) tombohannon [n=tombohan@h117.255.18.98.static.ip.windstream.net] entered the room. (14:40:09) tombohannon left the room (quit: ). (14:41:14) gdiaz_ios: the odbc thing works well in windows. . . (14:41:34) gdiaz_ios: a bit slow, but works welll (14:43:22) gdiaz_ios: haha crash!!! (14:43:25) gdiaz_ios: too quickly (14:43:29) gdiaz_ios: off to eat (15:05:30) powerman: gdiaz_ios: to set %r use sys-werrstr(2) (15:07:11) mjl-: powerman-asdf: did you make the page http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/man/subjects.html ? (15:10:29) powerman: mjl-: yep (15:10:42) mjl-: ok (15:10:50) mjl-: did you know all the links to the man pages are broken there? (15:11:00) mjl-: the urls don't have the section number in them (15:11:07) mjl-: the internal links work (15:11:17) mjl-: the #section links i mean (15:11:19) powerman: no. I use this one: http://powerman.name/Inferno/man/ (15:11:46) powerman: charles put it on vn site, and I don't have access to it to fix links (15:11:52) mjl-: ah, ok (15:11:59) mjl-: yeah, i thought that would be the case (15:12:03) mjl-: so did charles break it? (15:12:12) mjl-: or did you subsequently fix it on your own site? (15:12:18) powerman: not sure who it was, but it's not me :) (15:12:47) mjl-: :D (15:13:07) powerman: mjl-: ok, I see what the problem is (15:13:19) powerman: my index located in 2/ subdir (15:13:27) powerman: charles put it one level up (15:13:40) powerman: without adding 2/ to all links (15:13:41) powerman: so... (15:13:55) mjl-: ah :) (15:13:59) mjl-: should be a simple regex (15:14:03) mjl-: to add the links (15:14:59) powerman: you can report it on googlecode or in maillist to charles, he usually fix such simple things quickly (15:15:16) powerman: or use my version :) (15:16:09) mjl-: yeah, i once sent a mail to some @vitanuova.com address. but i guess he's not reading that. (15:16:15) mjl-: i'll send one to another address (15:19:00) fwiffo [n=user@unaffiliated/fwiffo] entered the room. (15:31:06) powerman: afaik he is reading at least this one: forsyth@terzarima.net (15:38:08) mjl-: jups (15:38:15) mjl-: that seems to be the right one to use (15:59:09) gualteri left the room. 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