Conversation with #inferno at Fri Apr 24 10:04:22 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(10:30:12) mjl-: morning
(10:31:08) mjl-: oh, the oberon thing.  i downloaded an iso, called A2<something>, which should have some OS from ETZ (or what the zurich uni was named) in it, might have been oberon-based.  but it didn't work in qemu, so tough luck
(10:36:46) olegfink: hi mjl-
(10:37:01) olegfink: in that article the author seems to mix up native oberon and gadgets ui
(10:37:45) olegfink: the former screenshot is from native, which is really text-based and all, and the latter is from gadgets ui, which has zooming but has nothing to do with pervasive text interfaces.
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(16:38:16) sea-gull: Hi all! I was playing with "Interloper" example from ipwl(pg 193).
(16:38:25) sea-gull: Msgs that I get differ from what's written in the book.
(16:38:31) sea-gull: Moreover,after launching program I get 2 sequential RClunk msgs. Is that normal?
(16:39:44) mjl-: heh, now that's funny
(16:39:47) mjl-: the book is a bit dated...
(16:39:51) mjl-: and it uses the 9p1 protocol
(16:39:57) mjl-: not 9p2000/styx
(16:40:22) mjl-: 9p2000/styx doesn't have the message:  nop, clone, session
(16:40:28) mjl-: and it's format is different
(16:40:40) mjl-: 9p1 is:  1 byte type, ...
(16:41:15) mjl-: while 9p2000/styx is:  2 byte size of message, 1 byte type, ... (from memory, might be slightly different)
(16:41:21) mjl-: so, the example from the book just doesn't work anymore
(16:41:43) sea-gull: what about 2 RClunk msgs?
(16:42:30) mjl-: well, i think the messages aren't really clunks.  the 9p1-interloper probably interprets the 9p2000 message as two clunks.
(16:42:52) mjl-: i just looked up 9p2000 messages, they are:  4 byte size, 1 byte type
(16:43:11) mjl-: sea-gull: you could modify the interloper program to work with 9p2000 messages
(16:43:20) mjl-: http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/man/5/0intro.html ← the format of the messages is explained here.
(16:43:44) mjl-: you only need to use the size & type of the message.
(16:45:37) mjl-: sounds like a neat excersize
(16:45:52) mjl-: hmm, that's misspelled
(16:46:01) mjl-: excercise
(16:46:09) mjl-: exercise
(16:46:11) mjl-: pfff
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(16:47:19) sea-gull: ok. Thanks:)
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