Conversation with #inferno at Fri Sep 18 17:18:27 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(17:18:03) dagle: Can you install inferno on a bsd machine without xorg and use none of the grafical programs?
(17:18:34) dagle: I want the filesystems to be on a server and xorg makes me cry.
(17:18:50) rapidfx: try compile "mk CONF=emu-g"
(17:22:11) rapidfx: oops... it just for linux
(17:22:34) dagle: :/
(17:22:48) rapidfx: and MacOSX
(17:23:54) uriel: dagle: it should be possible
(17:24:00) uriel: dagle: I'm quite sure mjl- does just that
(17:24:25) uriel: (althought it might be that he runs on linux? I know he uses a openbsd workstation... 
(17:24:52) uriel: dagle: anyway, you can build on a system with X, and copy it over to your server
(17:25:02) uriel: as long as you don't try to run any graphicsl programs, it should work 
(17:25:19) uriel: (I think...)
(17:25:34) uriel: (stupid dynamic linking might get you, so best build static)
(17:25:41) dagle: But I'm at a linux box and the server runs freebsd. Would that work?
(17:25:42) uriel: (if inferno doesn't do that by default, which it should)
(17:25:45) rapidfx: nope.. emu exits
(17:25:57) uriel: hummm...
(17:26:13) uriel: have you looked in the inferno-bin project? might have the emu you need
(17:26:32) uriel: http://code.google.com/p/inferno-bin/downloads/list
(17:26:47) rapidfx: emu depends from 2libs : libX11.so.6 libXext.so.6
(17:26:57) uriel: rapidfx: it shouldn't
(17:27:18) uriel: but I guess it can't be helped, but still, if it is statically linked it should be fine without them
(17:27:35) dagle: thx
(17:27:41) andguent: well you can have the emu without an x server for sure
(17:27:53) andguent: x-libs/header != running x server
(17:28:07) uriel: dagle: see the wiki pages for what each emu contains: http://code.google.com/p/inferno-bin/w/list
(17:28:19) uriel: er, http://code.google.com/p/inferno-bin/wiki/Configurations
(17:32:05) mjl-: i use openbsd with emu with x11.  but you can get it without.
(17:32:24) mjl-: i've seen it in the emu-wrt.  but gualteri & eno have done it too recently i think
(17:32:41) mjl-: oh, that was probably with x libs but no display
(17:33:27) mjl-: i'm going to see if i can compile it without x
(17:52:43) mjl-: ok, at least it's easy to build an emu that doesn't link into xorg libs.  but i can't easily remove the headers and see if compilation still works
(17:55:47) uriel: namespaces for the win ;)
(18:02:37) mjl-: hehe, yeah.  one could check the build log, and make sure there are no references to /usr/X11*, and hope cc isn't looking there by default, etc. etc.
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(19:20:22) dagle: Hmm I get: Shared object "libXext.so.6" not found
(19:24:53) uriel: shared libs suck
(19:29:29) mjl-: dagle: did you modify the emu/*BSD/mkfile to not link in the x libs?
(19:31:54) mjl-: http://www.ueber.net/who/mjl/tmp/nox11.diff
(19:31:58) mjl-: that's what i had to change
(19:32:28) mjl-: to get a linked o.emu-nox11 that has no x11 in it.  i assume that also means i wouldn't get the 'some x lib not found' error if i didn't have any
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(23:06:45) dagle: mjl-: I used the bin and got that.
(00:54:55) anothy_x: shouldn't making this just be a matter of copying the emu-g config from one of the platforms that has it to your target architecture?
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(19:10:14) dagle: mjl-: I get "undefined reference to `strtochan'" now. :/
(19:10:33) mjl-: dagle: correct
(19:10:52) mjl-: look at emu/Linux/emu-wrt (or emu-g i think), and look at the "code" section
(19:11:27) dagle: oh.
(19:11:34) mjl-: you need one like that.  it defines a bogus strtochan (i think that's a hook implemented for tk or something)
(19:12:45) dagle: Yeah. Understood that after looking at it.
(19:58:07) dagle: mjl-: thx. works now. <3
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(07:05:59) robot12: hi all
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(11:27:54) mjl-: hi robot12, good day all
(11:28:59) robot12: he he ... playing with dbsrv 
(11:29:35) mjl-: is it working? :)
(11:57:14) robot12: yep 
(11:57:41) robot12:  listen -A addr lib/dbsrv none
(11:58:48) robot12: but dbsrv uses it's own auth