Conversation with #inferno at Sun Oct  4 00:58:53 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
(02:14:41) sqweek: hm, /win away seems to work but also gives me "unknown command" in the current window
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(05:24:47) jimerickson: trying to build inferno on plan9. getting errors from mk. it cant find libinterp.a and /bin/limbo. what am i doing wrong?
(05:25:18) sqweek: did you run mk install or just mk all?
(05:25:36) jimerickson: sqweek just mk all
(05:26:36) sqweek: that will do it
(05:27:24) sqweek: you need to mk install as some of the built products (eg libinterp.a and limbo) are used again later and expected to be found in system paths
(05:28:52) jimerickson: ok i will try it sqweek
(06:10:34) jimerickson: well i tried and failed. i have set the variables in mkconfig and am using the native mk on plan9. no matter what i do i get the same error about libinterp.a and /bin/limbo. 
(06:11:23) sqweek: double check the readme
(06:11:37) sqweek: it might want you to bind 386/^(bin lib) in place on plan 9
(06:12:10) jimerickson: ok sqweek thanks
(06:20:28) jimerickson: yes i see now. but how do i modify the value of path in plan9?
(06:20:41) sqweek: you don't
(06:21:06) sqweek: just union bind the inferno bin dir onto /bin
(06:21:15) sqweek: see bind(2)
(06:21:30) jimerickson: got it thank you!
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(07:25:24) jimerickson: well i got the union bind set up successfully. and it built for quite awhile but eventually gave a keyringmodinit error for elgamalinit, rsainit, and dsainit. how can i deal with this?
(07:42:03) sqweek: what's the error?
(07:50:23) jimerickson: keyringmodinit: elgamalinit undefined. same for rsainit and dsainit.
(08:04:27) sqweek: no idea, never seen that one
(08:04:30) sqweek: try the list
(08:05:25) jimerickson: ok thanks sqweek i will give them a try...
(08:06:01) sqweek: be clear about what version you're using though
(08:06:45) jimerickson: 20090730
(11:12:13) mjl-: sqweek: you're right about the /win away error... a missing return somewhere
(11:15:11) mjl-: fix committed and pushed
(11:15:18) mjl-: thanks
(11:15:20) sqweek: cheers :)
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(00:56:56) roberthahn: Hi! Is this the right channel to ask for help with AcmeSAC?  It's the channel listed in the README...
(00:59:21) mjl-: never hurts to try, there are some users of acmesac here
(00:59:24) mjl-: unsurprisingly :)
(00:59:27) mjl-: i'm not one of them though
(01:00:59) roberthahn: ok, thanks mjl- 
(01:02:52) roberthahn: For those who are AcmeSAC users (on OS X, if that's important), how can I add paths?  For  example, I noticed that scripts that I have in /n/local/~/bin/ won't run, so I'd like to add it to whatever the equivalent of $PATH is...
(01:03:32) mjl-: normally you would bind that path after /dis.  e.g. bind -a $home/dis /dis
(01:04:13) mjl-: perhaps acmesac has a default path from the homedir that it binds on /dis, don't know.  it probably has some startup script you can put such a bind command in...
(01:05:27) roberthahn: I've worked out that I have a profile in /usr/roberthahn/lib/profile (inside the acmesac environment), and it looks much like what I'd expect a shell profile file to look like
(01:05:48) roberthahn: modulo the fact that I'm not familiar with Inferno's sh
(01:07:00) roberthahn: from what i've worked out, mjl, AcmeSAC seems to boot a virtual Inferno environment, and adds a 'way out' to the regular filesystem via /n/local/
(01:07:40) mjl-: yeah, that makes sense.  i do the same with normal inferno nowdays
(01:08:16) mjl-: so the path is something like /n/local/home/$user/bin, and it contains dis programs or inferno sh scripts you want to run?
(01:08:39) roberthahn: well, actually, what i want to run are ruby scripts
(01:08:54) roberthahn: i'm out of luck, aren't I :P
(01:10:07) mjl-: well, inferno isn't going to interpret the scripts for you of course, but you can use the os(1) command to let the host os (mac os x in this case) execute them
(01:10:41) roberthahn: ah, ok.
(01:11:06) roberthahn: i think you've given me a way forward on my research here. Thanks mjl- 
(01:11:15) mjl-: i think acmesac has a way to make use of os(1) easier (normally, os(1) cannot map an inferno path (e.g. /n/local/some/dir) to the host os path (/some dir), but acmesac has something for that
(01:11:18) mjl-: cool, np
(01:12:04) mjl-: roberthahn: you could try 'os /usr/local/bin/ruby' (or where mac os x stores it), and see what happens.  or directly make it run a specific script
(01:15:43) roberthahn: ok, looks like i can get that to work. If I want to turn 'os /usr/bin/ruby' into a one-word script, can i take that oneliner and save it to a file somewhere? in /dis?
(01:15:57) roberthahn: can I put Inferno sh scripts in /dis?
(01:16:20) mjl-: yes, that should work
(01:16:32) mjl-: start it with: #!/dis/sh.dis
(01:17:01) mjl-: e.g. /dis/man (that probably exists on acmesac too, i have it on normal inferno at least)
(01:18:17) roberthahn: yes, i've seen evidence that it does exist.  Very cool. Thanks again mjl- 
(01:21:54) mjl-: have fun
(01:22:02) mjl-: i'm off to bed, o/~~ :)
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(07:16:58) jimerickson: "keyringmodinit: elgamalinit is undefined" error received trying to build inferno on a plan9 vm 
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(09:24:02) sswam: lol at nounderscoresinlongvariablenames
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(19:27:59) jimerickson: sqweek i got a response from the list. the solution was to add "keyring" to emu/Plan9/emu just before "sec" in the lib section. thought you might like to know.
(19:30:50) jimerickson: attachscreen: can't mount widow manager: bad rectangle in attach.
(19:30:50) jimerickson: wmlib: can't allocate Display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: bad rectangle
(19:30:50) jimerickson: in attach. how can i resolve this?
(19:49:00) anothy_x: what's that in response to?
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(20:29:37) mjl-: is everyone finishing their work in progress reports for iwp9 yet? :)
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(00:32:38) digi9: Any of you using Octopus?
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(01:24:33) mjl-: http://www.qnap.com/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=134 ← nas, seems to be based on the marvell kirkwood chip that 's in the sheevaplug
(01:25:28) mjl-: not cheap
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(07:12:01) robot12: morning !