Conversation with #inferno at Mon Dec 7 01:24:27 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc) (03:08:04) ***keiya is trying to make sense of factotum. (03:08:18) keiya: The concept makes sense, I just can't puzzle out the implementation :P (03:08:36) uriel: did you read the paper? (03:10:14) keiya: Yes. I can't figure out the original source of keys - ie, how to generate them and tell the agent about their existance. (03:11:46) soul9: factotum's filesystem? (or i got the question wrong) (03:12:04) ***keiya shrugs (03:12:28) keiya: I'll figure it out eventually, I probably just accidentally skipped a page reading documentation or something. (03:12:42) keiya: It wouldn't be the first time. ^_^ (03:13:05) soul9: factotum has a filesystem and you echo keys to it's ctl (03:15:15) keiya: "Yeah, I figured it was probably something like that, I'm just... eh, I should reread the stuff I read last night. I was sleepy. Sleepy keiya + documentation reading... doesn't work. (03:31:45) keiya: Oh, also, what's the difference between 'mk clean (03:31:52) keiya: ' and 'mk nuke'? (03:31:57) keiya: (Stupid lappy keyboard) (03:33:16) ***keiya is trying to figure out how to update Inferno. (03:33:28) keiya: I try to figure things out a lot, don't I? >_> (03:35:10) keiya: I /think/ nuke deletes the final binaries, while clean only removes intermediate files? (03:45:12) underspecified left the room (quit: ). (04:27:48) keiya left the room (quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). (04:28:07) keiya [n=keiya@pool-71-98-4-118.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] entered the room. (04:37:16) underspecified [n=eric@walnut.naist.jp] entered the room. (04:37:41) anth_x: i'm not sure there's a good way to generalize that difference. (04:37:57) anth_x: nuke is more thorough, basically. (04:38:03) anth_x: they both remove the target, though. (04:38:07) anth_x: (again, generally) (04:38:49) anth_x: see /sys/src/cmd/mk(one many) for the most common examples. 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(11:05:08) keiya left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). (11:56:57) mjl-: morning (12:11:46) sqweek: hey mjl- (12:12:13) sqweek: how's life? (12:19:57) mjl-: yo sqweek (12:19:59) mjl-: life is good (12:20:04) mjl-: for now at least :) (12:20:12) mjl-: will have to find work one of these days again (12:20:16) mjl-: how are you? (12:20:22) mjl-: and what are you up to nowadays? :) (12:27:05) sqweek: spending a lot of time on piano (12:27:09) sqweek: also playing games >_> (12:28:33) sqweek: upgraded my computer for the first time in 7 years so i have some catching up to do (12:28:45) sqweek: still haven't got linux working properly on it (12:29:09) mjl-: :) (12:29:09) mjl-: nice (12:29:35) mjl-: how long have you played piano? (12:29:50) sqweek: i played a bit when i was younger (12:29:58) sqweek: started again about 4 months ago (12:30:36) mjl-: so lots of practicing? (12:30:53) sqweek: yeah (12:32:07) mjl-: and you're improving? :D (12:32:13) mjl-: i've played piano when i was young (12:32:24) mjl-: never got past the (somewhat boring) classical music (12:32:35) sqweek: i found some stuff i like (12:32:46) sqweek: so yeah, keep getting better at it (12:32:47) mjl-: yeah, i think that's crucial :) (12:32:54) sqweek: definately (12:33:14) mjl-: anything in particular to play? (12:33:31) mjl-: i bet the internets has lots of places to get music from nowadays (12:33:33) sqweek: currently have für elise, the entertainer and moonlight sonata under my belt (12:33:48) mjl-: i know the first one! :) (12:33:51) sqweek: :) (13:04:14) j123m [n=quassel@unas-revda.interra.ru] entered the room. (13:29:56) underspecified left the room (quit: ).