Conversation with #inferno at Mon Dec  7 14:17:27 2009 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(06:53:48) robot12: morning 
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(07:53:41) keiya: Morning.
(07:54:10) keiya: Anyone else played with Inferno DS? I can't get it to boot on my Acekard 2i using the AKAIO firmware...
(07:54:26) sqweek: i have it booting on my ttds
(07:54:39) sqweek: but i doubt i can be much help
(08:38:33) keiya: Well, I got it to boot, but only by switching back to the official AK2 firmware. Which even the Acekard manufacturers don't recommend.
(08:39:11) keiya: (I'm assuming the screechy horrible sound at start and the screen corruption are normal)
(08:39:16) ***keiya shrugs.
(08:39:38) sqweek: yeah i guess the graphics bug was never fixed
(08:39:42) sqweek: what release are you using?
(08:40:29) keiya: Both isds-r175 and icds
(08:40:52) sqweek: right
(08:40:58) sqweek: i wonder if there is more recent fixes in svn
(08:43:17) keiya: Looks like there's been 14 commits since then. Two of them wiki page edits, a revision of a tex file, a few for wifi,
(08:43:43) keiya: And a DLDI change in r184, I think? Hmm...
(08:45:34) ***keiya has been corrupted by git to the point svn changelogs look odd to her >_>
(08:47:56) keiya: Anyway, yeah, if just gives a pair of all-white screens on akaio (1.5)
(08:52:56) sqweek: bummer
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(08:53:54) sqweek: hm wait a minute, are you not the same keiya that used to frequent #cmc on nightstar?
(08:56:10) keiya: I am, yeah.
(08:56:16) keiya: I'm there now, actually. :J
(08:56:47) keiya: Why do you ask?
(08:56:59) sqweek: ah yeah, you weren't the other day when i checked :)
(08:57:09) sqweek: i thought you were a guy is all
(08:58:45) keiya: sqweek: thanks for outing me. >_<
(08:59:04) ***keiya shrugs. She doesn't really care. :P
(08:59:27) sqweek: my bad
(09:00:37) keiya: S'ok. :J
(09:01:04) sqweek: in any case, wish i could help more but i never got around to making my own image or anything
(09:01:54) keiya: The problem with this approach is that the DLDI patched code (arm-elf ) contains instructions
(09:01:56) keiya: which modify a critical register without restoring it afterwards, which would panic the kernel.
(09:01:59) keiya: For that reason, at this moment the DLDIhdr is only used to detect the card type and then
(09:02:03) keiya: select one of a set of compiled-in drivers, one for each type of card.
(09:02:05) keiya: Ah... that might do itt
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(09:08:05) keiya: Yeah. Even using the AK2-official DLDI with AKAIO doesn't work.
(09:12:02) Normmatt: but it works on official ak2?
(09:12:18) Normmatt: then its an akaio problem and i guess it will be put on my todo list
(09:15:46) keiya: Normmatt: Well, as far as I can tell it's that it
(09:16:01) keiya: Normmatt: Well, as far as I can tell it's that Inferno's not detecting that it should use the AK2 driver.
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(09:16:25) Normmatt: inferno doesnt use dldi like everything else?
(09:16:31) Normmatt: if so that very bad programming
(09:16:46) keiya: According to http://inferno-ds.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/infds.pdf it uses statically-linked drivers, yes >_>
(09:17:02) keiya: The problem with this approach is that the DLDI patched code (arm-elf ) contains instructions
(09:17:05) keiya: which modify a critical register without restoring it afterwards, which would panic the kernel.
(09:17:08) keiya: For that reason, at this moment the DLDIhdr is only used to detect the card type and then
(09:17:11) keiya: select one of a set of compiled-in drivers, one for each type of card.
(09:17:13) keiya: (In section 3.6)
(09:18:28) keiya: So... yeah, It's doing something weird.
(09:18:46) keiya: It seems like it should recognize the ak2 patch still, though...
(09:22:52) keiya: "01:19 < moof> dare I ask why it's impossible to, instead of calling dldi directly, put in a stub  routine that does the save the register dance, call dldi, and then restore?
(09:26:48) keiya: Hey, guys, what all components are nonfree in inferno? Is it just the B&H fonts, or is there actual code that's not free?
(09:27:36) soul9: all the code is vitanuova's, and they opensourced it.
(09:27:53) keiya: soul9: So the only non-free bits left are the fonts?
(09:28:23) soul9: afaik some bits might be just opensource, not free, but it's stated in the files. and i honestly don't even think there are such files
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(09:40:01) soul9: has anyone got their ircfs to do sound notifications on a linux host?
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(12:57:41) keiya: Hmm. I wonder how hard it would be to port the inferno emu to limbo... :P
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