Conversation with #inferno at Wed Mar 24 00:27:30 2010 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(13:46:23) powerman: wrtp: i've added support for compile() and execute(), plus man page. there still needed executese() to have 100% compatible interface with regex(2), but looks like i've no more time for this project and should return to main work. adding support for executese() will require slight changes in libre2wrap (add support to control one_line option), but otherwise should be rather trivial. if you want, i'll add you to googlecode project so you can push these changes yourself. or it will be done by any person who will need it.
(13:51:05) wrtp: powerman-asdf1: ok, i could do that
(13:51:20) powerman: uriel: I've finished work on re2 module, it's stable, tested (i've test suite with 211 tests but no place in inferno fs hierarchy for it and thus I can't upload it to googlecode!), and documented. if you still wanna make announce about it in ninetimes - i think there enough sentences about it on https://code.google.com/p/inferno-re2/ to copy&paste into announce :)
(13:52:06) powerman: wrtp: I suppose I need your email to add you to project developers on googlecode...
(13:52:20) wrtp: powerman-asdf1: rogpeppe@gmail.com
(13:53:45) powerman: wrtp: done
(13:54:15) powerman: wrtp: thanks a lot for all your help!
(13:54:32) wrtp: no problem. it was a nice distraction!
(13:55:18) wrtp: it'll be interesting to do some benchmarks to see if it actually results in substantial speedup
(13:56:38) wrtp: i'll be tempted to add some support for choosing the regexp syntax subset & for anchored/unanchored matches
(13:59:49) powerman: feel free to do any changes but please try to keep "user-friendly" part of interface stable, if possible - i'll start using it in my projects today :)
(14:03:04) wrtp: i'd probably change semantics of strpos - it seems wrong that the offset should be utf-8...
(14:03:18) powerman: man page is ugly because it generated using docbook.xsl for usual unix man pages. i suppose no one have correct docbook.xsl for inferno-style man pages? :) maybe one day i'll add configuration to support inferno man pages to asciidoc...
(14:04:32) powerman: yeah, StrPos has to be changed this way, but this won't broke interface, here is quote from man page: "WARNING! Currently 'se.pos' contain offset in UTF-8 representation of 'se.str', not character number, so only safe values to initialize StrPos() or to change it is 0 or any values set by previous matchnext() call - this may change in future."
(14:04:36) wrtp: powerman-asdf1: it's conventional to write the man page directly in troff
(14:05:02) wrtp: i usually do it by copying another man page and mutating
(14:05:28) wrtp: if you don't know troff, it's not hard, and quite useful
(14:05:31) powerman: no way! *roff is something I don't like to use in any case.
(14:06:21) wrtp: why not?
(14:07:06) wrtp: it's easy to write, and simpler than TeX :-)
(14:08:18) powerman: that's not an issue of learnig troff, i learned a lot of new things just in last 3 days. i just don't like to write documentation in this way - it's harder to read/write/convert to other formats than asciidoc
(14:08:43) powerman: TeX is overkill for software docs
(14:09:10) powerman: WYSIWYG is just plain wrong for everything :)
(14:09:29) wrtp: i don't know about asciidoc
(14:09:32) powerman: *toff is outdated, and was outdated 10 years ago
(14:09:46) powerman: asciidoc is just simple wiki-like format 
(14:10:18) wrtp: troff is timeless :-)
(14:10:38) powerman: very easy to read/write in plain text, with powerful ability to convert to html and docbook, and there tools for converting from docbook to everything else
(14:11:20) wrtp: it's ok, i'll do your man page for you :-)
(14:14:39) powerman: :) sounds invitingly, but I know there some defect in this proposition... and I even know which one: to update man page next time I'll have to use troff to not overwrite your nice man page with ugly docbook output!
(14:15:24) wrtp: troff man pages are standard in inferno. if you want it to fit in, that's the format!
(14:15:40) wrtp: and as i said, it's not hard.
(14:15:52) wrtp: there are only about 3 or 4 things to learn.
(14:16:03) powerman: yeah, but my man page is supported by man, wm/man and man2html
(14:19:04) wrtp: yeah except all the formatting is wrong
(14:20:38) powerman: i think it's better to fix conversion used by asciidoc to make it generate correct formatting than to manually type/read troff
(14:21:20) uriel: powerman-asdf1: thanks for the note, but come on, you can do it! /me cheers ;P
(14:38:48) powerman: yeah, of course i can! :) i can fix asciidoc. that's much better investment of my time.
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(18:16:34) powerman: wrtp: i've fixed man formatting partially. but there more work needed on asciidoc config to make it output 100% correct
(18:17:16) wrtp: ok
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(21:27:23) powerman: wrtp: ok, looks like it's now 100% correct, at least I don't see any bugs there. huh.
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