Conversation with #inferno at Sat Nov 20 19:45:34 2010 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(22:00:46) rlp10: just compiling inferno, trying it for the first time...
(22:20:52) anth_r: awesome; welcome!
(22:58:47) anth_r: erg. i wish section 10 of the manual wasn't so anemic.
(22:59:07) anth_r: anyone know what the last argument to memimagedraw is?
(23:20:39) rlp10: anth_r: thanks. I'm running emu... hmm wonder what I can do here?
(23:51:00) anth_r: inferno's most fun programs are acme and the limbo compiler. :-)
(00:00:13) mjl-: yes!
(00:00:17) mjl-: and manual pages for all the info
(00:05:24) anth_r: (except the info i need just now ;-)
(00:06:24) mjl-: :P
(00:07:51) mjl-: correction then:
(00:07:58) mjl-: "and manual pages and the source for all the info"
(00:08:38) anth_r: yup. the source is slower than man pages for some things, but it's pretty clear, very well-written and well-organized.
(00:09:55) anth_r: hrm, i wonder...
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(08:44:50) anth_r: got a 4e javastation kernel built (minus graphics), but it's no good yet.
(08:45:00) anth_r: just prints "T" on the serial port and hangs. :-/
(08:45:35) anth_r: debugging next week. for now, bed.
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(20:16:58) mjl-: i've got to find a new x11 window manayger
(20:17:01) mjl-: manager*
(20:17:15) mjl-: pwm isn't even in debian anymore, and its homepage has gone.
(20:17:27) mjl-: plus, i need one that works better with inferno
(20:17:55) mjl-: eg one that doesn't need alt for keyboard shortcuts/commands
(20:18:09) mjl-: because that sits in the way of inferno's unicode composing
(20:36:34) mjl-: i suppose wm/wm could use some rework too...
(20:36:44) mjl-: does anyone know of drop-in alternatives to wm/wm?
(21:44:03) anth_x: mjl-: p9p's rio.
(21:44:43) mjl-: hmm, that is too much mouse-only for me...
(21:44:43) anth_x: and i'm very much not a fan of inferno's wm. i don't believe there are any extant alternatives. i'd love one, though.
(21:44:59) anth_x: and i'm just popping in for a minute. have to run again, sorry.
(21:45:14) mjl-: ok :)
(21:45:25) mjl-: i might have a look at implementing another wm soon
(21:45:38) mjl-: wm/wm isn't even 700 lines, how hard could it be?
(21:45:45) vsrinivas: famous last words.
(21:45:59) mjl-: perhaps it hard once you want to do stuff that the surroundings of wm/wm wasn't made to do
(21:46:03) mjl-: vsrinivas: :)
(21:46:59) mjl-: i'm now working on a vi clone for inferno :P
(21:47:13) vsrinivas: elly in #plan9 tried implementing ion for p9, found it was a disaster...
(21:47:51) mjl-: that is not encouraging :)
(21:49:12) mjl-: but, making another wm isn't even on the todo list yet
(21:49:18) mjl-: so better not think too hard about it now
(21:49:31) mjl-: i do need keyboard shortcuts though :)
(21:49:50) vsrinivas: heh. once i got tab completion in wm/sh, i didn't want much else :D
(21:50:00) mjl-: ohhh
(21:50:04) mjl-: is that in inferno-npe?
(21:50:15) vsrinivas: no, actually... the patch is on the inferno list...
(21:50:20) mjl-: hmm, ok
(21:50:22) vsrinivas: (prolly should be, though)
(21:50:26) mjl-: actually, i do want more for wm/sh
(21:50:30) mjl-: namely vi-style editing
(21:50:34) vsrinivas: iirc i didn't add it because someone had an objection.
(21:50:39) vsrinivas: but i don't remember what it was for...
(21:50:59) vsrinivas: it was much cooler than rio's tab completion, since it occurs in wm/sh's namespace,
(21:51:13) vsrinivas: (so a mounted fs works fine :D)
(21:51:29) mjl-: yeah, that is a major flaw in rio's
(21:51:42) mjl-: i like how easy you can do stuff with tk
(22:50:08) vsrinivas: are there any inferno file servers that can do p9 auth?
(22:52:05) vsrinivas: mjl-: how far did your o9fs get, btw?
(22:54:26) mjl-: 9p for openbsd?
(22:54:38) mjl-: that was muzgo's at least
(22:54:52) vsrinivas: ah, nvm.
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