Conversation with #inferno at Mon Nov 29 15:26:46 2010 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc)
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(15:39:23) mjl-: true.  it might not be a bad idea to firewall all incoming ipv6 traffic by default on machines.
(15:39:40) mjl-: then people who know what they are doing can punch holes in it, or disable the firewall alltogether
(15:42:45) mjl-: heh, just checked.  turns out i forgot to take the firewall rules with my on my last upgrade of my laptop...
(16:05:17) KBme: definitely dangerous
(16:05:42) KBme: when one enables ipv6 on a router, all the machines are at once completely exposed
(16:06:47) KBme: powerman-asdf1: did you see the countdown, though? pretty soon there will be people who won't have any ipv4 addresses, if you don't have a v6 address by then, you can't provide services to them.
(16:08:57) mjl-: i bet there will be years of canabilizing existing ipv4 address space.  and more people behind nat...
(16:35:22) powerman: KBme: yeah, I've seen the countdown, but such mental pressing has no effect on me. probably I'm just not in target audience for it.
(16:39:17) powerman: mjl-: personally I don't see anything wrong with nat. with all it bad sides, it still has good effect in protecting internal network
(16:43:32) mjl-: i really hate nat, because it means i can only pull data to the machine while on the machine, not push anything to while on another machine.  and i have a need for that quite often...
(16:45:14) powerman: mjl-: I'm too, but I've configured by home workstation to BE the nat for local network. this put me in completely another position: I've no troubles with my work at all while still protecting local windoze machines by my hardened gentoo :)
(16:45:56) powerman: work on router differs from work behind router, you just should be at right place :)
(16:47:07) powerman: heh. time to reboot to load kernel with ipv6. 
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