Conversation with #inferno at Tue Jan 4 17:30:29 2011 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc) (18:56:02) anth_r [none@cpe-76-190-129-110.neo.res.rr.com] entered the room. (19:00:16) bvalek2 [5985141d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.133.20.29] entered the room. (19:04:57) sl: mjl: after running ndb/cs, i now have a file /net/cs, but still can't ping or get charon to connect to anything. if i understand correctly, ndb/cs should pick up the host networking without need of further configuration in /lib/ndb/*, right? (19:05:19) sl: btw, this is inferno hosted on plan 9. (19:09:15) mjl-: ok, connections should work. i would try with "telnet www.google.com 80" (19:09:44) mjl-: i wouldn't expect ping to work, i don't think any hosted inferno has raw network access (19:09:51) sl: ah, okay (19:10:05) mjl-: perhaps you have to manually import /net from the host file system (19:10:16) mjl-: '#U*/net' (19:10:22) sl: can't dial tcp!www.google.com!80: network unavailable tcp (19:10:23) mjl-: eg bind -b '#U*/net' /net (19:10:41) mjl-: perhaps it's #U/net instead (19:11:02) sl: gives me the bind usage info (19:11:33) mjl-: huh (19:11:35) mjl-: did you quote that #? (19:11:52) sl: yes (19:12:27) sl: i tried the examples from the man pages for ip(3) and ether(3) but i either just got the bind usage statement or else it complained the interface wasn't valid. (19:12:44) sl: #l and #I were rejected as invalid (19:13:23) sl: is it common for tip to have bugs? maybe i should pull a fresh tree? (19:14:01) mjl-: no, bugs are not so common (19:14:10) mjl-: this sounds like a big problem (19:14:23) mjl-: if the bind is so broken... (19:14:26) sl: i'm willing to believe i made a mistake. :D (19:14:36) mjl-: can you bind just dirs? not kernel devices (19:14:56) sl: yes, let me paste the script i startup with (19:14:57) mjl-: also, "cat /dev/drivers" to find which devices have been compiled in (19:15:19) sl: ah... that helps (19:15:32) sl: hm, no I, l or U (19:15:56) sl: here is my startup command: exec $home/inferno/Plan9/386/bin/emu $* /dis/sh.dis -c 'bind ''#U*/usr'' /usr; wm/wm wm/logon -u '^$user (19:16:11) sl: it successfully places me in my home dir (19:17:03) mjl-: and there is no #U? (19:17:17) mjl-: perhaps inferno does something with that automatically... (19:17:20) sl: ugh, this font (19:17:25) sl: maybe that is a U and not a V (19:17:34) sl: #(U|V) fs (19:17:42) mjl-: ah! (19:17:48) mjl-: ok, that should work then (19:17:53) sl: ok (19:17:58) mjl-: and is there anything resembling a network stack in #U*/net? (19:18:19) sl: ah! (19:18:24) sl: i can ls that (19:18:32) sl: it does have the expected files (19:18:34) sl: including ether0 (19:18:44) sl: so that is from plan 9? (19:18:49) mjl-: jups (19:18:58) sl: so can i import then? (19:19:09) mjl-: yes, if bind(1) is playing nice (19:19:17) mjl-: it should be just "bind '#U*/net' /net" (19:19:24) sl: i'll try again (19:19:40) sl: ah, that worked (19:19:41) mjl-: that makes sense: inferno on plan9 doesn't have to fake a /net/tcp when plan 9's will do just fine (19:19:42) sl: thanks! (19:19:49) mjl-: np! (19:20:30) sl: hm, charon gives a different error now: couldn't connect: '/net/tcp' file does not exist (/net/tcp/clone) (19:20:39) sl: i guess i need to bind this on startup (19:20:43) sl: for it to be available to all windows (19:22:09) mjl-: jups (19:23:34) sl: ah, it works now. thanks very much! (19:23:45) sl: i've been stuck on this for a while and i haven't had time to pursue it. (20:44:06) bvalek2 left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed). (01:17:37) hotaru2k3 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/hotaru2k3] entered the room. (04:07:37) hotaru2k3 left the room (quit: Disconnected by services). (04:07:45) hotaru2k3 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/hotaru2k3] entered the room. (07:24:28) KBme left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (07:26:19) KBme_ [~KBme@9angled-2-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net] entered the room. (07:35:55) acmeuser [~acmeuser@121.0.29.240] entered the room. (07:35:56) acmeuser left the room. (07:37:12) metis [~metis@121.0.29.240] entered the room. (07:37:19) metis left the room. (08:14:05) Fish [~Fish@9fans.fr] entered the room. (08:55:56) Fish left the room (quit: Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish). (09:18:50) hotaru2k3 left the room (quit: Disconnected by services). (09:18:53) hotaru2k3_ [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/hotaru2k3] entered the room. (09:20:21) hotaru2k3_ left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (09:21:08) hotaru2k3 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/hotaru2k3] entered the room. (10:41:24) bvalek2 [c3e41404@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.228.20.4] entered the room. (11:26:17) Fish- left the room (quit: Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish). (11:32:14) Fish [~Fish@exo3753.pck.nerim.net] entered the room. (11:50:25) The account has disconnected and you are no longer in this chat. You will be automatically rejoined in the chat when the account reconnects.