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(02:38:42) Jack_JKT: (notice) Join #remy my nigga #remy
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(20:11:07) Kucuq: Hi, I'm trying to get a brief overlook over the inferno sources. But I'm confused. I'm looking for the main interpreter loop. I looked in libinterp and looked into random files, but I haven't got a clue. Where can i find it? Is there something like this?
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(00:22:44) mjl-: hey guys
(00:22:47) mjl-: anything up here lately?
(00:25:51) leetspete: mjl-: Dead quiet.  There was a brief conversation some time last week--a volley, even.
(00:35:29) mjl-: ah well, better than nothing (:
(00:38:56) leetspete: Question, response, comment...this channel's heating up!  :D
(00:41:19) leetspete: mjl-: Thanks for the wm/run, by the way.  It's been indispensable.
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(04:49:35) utroz: Hello leetspete, I back again.
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(06:34:31) leetspete: utroz: Hi!
(06:35:24) utroz: How've you been? ;)
(06:36:02) utroz: I'm trying to write my lexical analyser, it's so hard =)
(06:36:56) leetspete: Ah.  There's a port of yacc to Inferno, there doesn't seem to be a port of lex, though.
(06:38:18) utroz: port?! 
(06:38:59) leetspete:  /appl/cmd/yacc.b :)
(06:39:09) utroz: I would like to develop the scanner without use a generator.
(06:40:07) leetspete: Ah, I see.
(06:40:47) utroz: but I'll take a look at it now
(06:41:09) utroz: ;)
(06:44:26) utroz: leetspete, What are you doing ? ;)
(06:48:02) leetspete: Trying to figure out how the auth stuff works.  A little tired of having to use scp or rsync or something to get things between Inferno instances in the house.
(06:50:00) utroz: hehe.
(06:53:26) utroz: I'm reading the compilers book, but the new edition uses java code to figure out how a lexical analysis works.
(06:58:21) utroz: leetspete, Have you ever written a kernel piece code ?
(06:59:01) utroz: I mean to inferno os.
(07:16:17) leetspete: utroz: I've not.  I did patch the emu-fb code a little for my laptop.
(07:16:47) utroz: nice ;)
(07:20:10) leetspete: I picked up an Efika MX.  Really nice, cheap, 800MHz ARM, 512MB RAM, etc.  -c1 gives me some segfaults, and I've been looking for an excuse to do more ARM...
(07:22:05) leetspete: Wasted half a day trying to build X on it...Actually inferno-fb works fine for the thing.
(07:22:32) utroz: hehe
(07:22:52) utroz: I've quite difficult to run inferno in x86
(07:22:55) utroz: ;)
(07:23:10) leetspete: Also, I swear, the /lib/scores/tetris is full of lies, there is no way, NO WAY.
(07:24:34) leetspete: I had some troubles getting it to run on 64-bit Linux, nothing major, though.  Is it running for you now?  I might be able to help if not.
(07:25:38) utroz: I'd like ;)
(07:26:15) utroz: My friend help me a time, but I forget how to do.
(07:27:09) utroz: helped*
(07:27:09) leetspete: Cool.  What's the current trouble?
(07:27:40) utroz: everything.
(07:27:47) utroz: well, this is a joke. kk
(07:28:17) leetspete: ha, hopefully.
(07:28:51) utroz: but I've a bit difficult to run Inferno sometimes..
(07:33:06) leetspete: What sort of difficulties?
(07:48:15) utroz: I downloaded the Inferno sources, but I forget where the inferno image is
(07:48:28) utroz: and how to use qemu.
(07:48:37) utroz: to run it.
(07:53:39) leetspete: Ah.  I've had no luck running native Inferno.  Have you gotten it to run hosted?
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(18:06:44) Kucuq: Hi, I have trouble understanding dis(6). 
(18:07:04) Kucuq: What does "Os" in "header:  magic signatureOs runflag" mean?
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(19:27:34) anth_x: Kucuq: that looks like a typo.
(19:28:17) anth_x: check /doc/dis.[pdf ms], specifically page 16 (in the pdf) for the header description.
(19:36:16) Kucuq: Ok, did that. It seems to be dispensable.
(19:36:50) Kucuq: But It is quite often in the man page. 
(19:36:57) Kucuq: For example in "source-data, dest-data:  operand operandOs "
(19:38:17) Kucuq: Ah, maybe it's about the fact the argument is not mandatory
(19:38:28) Kucuq: Just found out.
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(20:12:27) Kucuq: Again a question about the dis file format
(20:13:07) Kucuq: if the magic_number is XMAGIC is there a signature?
(20:19:14) Kucuq: the second Operator in dis/cla.dis is 262144
(20:20:47) Kucuq: But what could that be? I hope it's not the length of the signature. That does not look like runtime_flag either
(20:22:37) Kucuq: With second operator i mean the first operator after 819248
(20:22:44) Kucuq: =XMAGIC
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(21:56:01) pseud0cod3r: /sys/inferno-os/limbo/limbo.y:2813[y.tab.c:1321] syntax error, last name: YYSys
(21:56:13) pseud0cod3r: ca not compile inferno on plan9
(22:25:05) vsrinivas: :( ; it worked summer 2010...
(22:26:05) pseud0cod3r: vsrinivas: doesn't work for me with 20070510
(22:26:31) vsrinivas: first, i'd try a newer inferno then?
(22:26:43) vsrinivas: second, check you're using inferno's toolchain (yacc, etc....)
(22:26:43) pseud0cod3r: tried newer ones same error
(22:27:13) vsrinivas: hm. i don't have a p9 system handy, but it definitely worked in summer 2010 w/ inferno's tip and p9 from the labs.
(22:27:34) vsrinivas: iyacc has diverged from p9's, make sure you're using it.
(22:27:40) vsrinivas: also inferno's own 8c, etc...
(22:27:54) pseud0cod3r: humm how do i use inferno's toolchain ?
(22:28:33) vsrinivas: i don't remember exactly,  but you need to follow the install guide specifically.
(22:28:52) vsrinivas: to build those first and put them in your path or somesuch (or on p9, bind inferno's bin before your p9 one.
(22:29:14) vsrinivas: i believe you need to bind Plan9/386/bin or something over /bin, but before the native one.
(22:40:51) pseud0cod3r: but how do i make the tools separately first ?
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(23:30:25) pseud0cod3r: ok it's doing now :)
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