Conversation with #inferno at Thu May 10 16:49:02 2012 on powerman-asdf@irc.freenode.net (irc) (17:54:28) nie` left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). (17:54:47) mnie [~nie@80-42-238-206.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] entered the room. (18:08:15) Aram left the room (quit: Quit: .). (18:12:58) Aram [~aram@chello084112126145.24.11.vie.surfer.at] entered the room. (18:12:58) Aram left the room (quit: Changing host). (18:12:58) Aram [~aram@unaffiliated/aramdune] entered the room. (18:23:05) Aram left the room (quit: Quit: die). (18:23:44) rogpeppe [rog@conference/canonicalproductsprint/x-bhfaqwzbsnwbnpeg] entered the room. (18:28:46) anth_x1 [~a@76.241.156.108] entered the room. (18:30:34) anth_x left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds). (18:41:34) dreadlorde [dreadlorde@c-68-42-82-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] entered the room. (18:58:30) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Quit: Konversation terminated!). (19:08:12) Aram [~aram@chello084112126145.24.11.vie.surfer.at] entered the room. (19:08:21) Aram left the room (quit: Changing host). (19:08:21) Aram [~aram@unaffiliated/aramdune] entered the room. (19:23:54) rogpeppe [rog@conference/canonicalproductsprint/x-izcsorgoqcxyjarl] entered the room. (19:27:05) ecelis [ecelis@miku.sdf.org] entered the room. (19:36:37) rogpeppe: Aram: in general, the namespaces are separate (19:36:48) Aram: yes. (19:37:11) rogpeppe: Aram: there's no way of putting an inferno name space into the os name space (except perhaps in some cases - it'd be interesting to attempt FUSE) (19:37:39) rogpeppe: Aram: but we can use the ns reverse lookup to do a reasonable job most of the time (19:38:01) Aram: well, in Linux you should be able to use 9p to mount an exported namespace, I guess. (19:38:01) Aram: yes. (19:38:14) Aram: I think parsing ns is good enoygh for me. (19:38:18) Aram: in this case. (19:38:51) rogpeppe: Aram: it's really annoying that i've lost the package. it worked pretty well. i'm trying to think of search terms! (19:40:52) Aram: Nemo might have something like this as well, I'm grepping octopus sources. (19:44:08) Aram: nah. (19:44:38) leetspete: Aram: You can do that with 9P; I've done it, worked well. I don't think there's a Linux implementation for handling Inferno auth, though. (19:49:57) rogpeppe: leetspete: you wouldn't need it (19:53:08) leetspete: rogpeppe: In general, or in this case? (I may be missing something; my client seems to have started showing me this conversation in the middle.) (19:53:20) Aram: leetspete: we started this discussion elsewhere. (19:53:22) rogpeppe: leetspete: in this case (19:53:52) rogpeppe: leetspete: the object is to make commands run by os understand inferno file names (19:54:40) Aram: well, not really understand inferno names, but make os(1) chdir to the host dir IFF $CWD can be expressed as a host path :). (19:55:33) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Quit: Konversation terminated!). (19:58:40) leetspete: Ah, I see. Trying to chdir to $emuroot/$cwd and then prepending $emuroot to filenames that start with /? (19:59:14) leetspete: I had poked at this idea when I got frustrated at the lack of awk. I'm relatively new, though, so I'll be quiet and let (19:59:19) leetspete: you guys continue. :) (19:59:33) leetspete: Sorry to interrupt. :) (19:59:54) Aram: yes, awk is a great example of why this would be useful. (20:00:11) Aram: rog wrote something like this some time ago, but lost it :). (20:00:21) Aram: I'm taking a shot at it today. (20:01:17) leetspete: I suspect on Linux an LD_PRELOAD that intercepts open/stat/etc. by talking Styx could solve the problem Rube Goldberg-style. (20:01:50) Aram: yeah, on Linux is mostly a non issue as you can mount the namespace with 9p, but this is Windows :|. (20:03:54) rogpeppe [rog@conference/canonicalproductsprint/x-ampvujtpyujzebxw] entered the room. (20:04:20) leetspete: Windows isn't slated to get 9P support? ;P (20:05:01) Aram: I think someone wrote a driver but Im not sure how well it works (20:21:15) Fish- [~Fish@9fans.fr] entered the room. (21:56:49) hiro_: Isn't there this strange file sharing program built on top of 9p? (21:56:55) hiro_: It runs on windows iirc (21:57:07) hiro_: rangboom or so (22:07:36) Aram: interesting (22:08:34) anth_x1: rangboom, yes. but it's mostly-defunct. (22:08:40) anth_x1 is now known as anth_x (23:09:36) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 252 seconds). (23:12:51) Fish-: sadly, yes (23:12:58) Fish-: it worked very fine (23:13:46) anth_x left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (23:29:39) Aram left the room (quit: Quit: .). (00:01:05) acmeuser [~acmeuser@dslb-088-069-209-016.pools.arcor-ip.net] entered the room. (00:01:58) acmeuser left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (00:04:26) rogpeppe [rog@conference/canonicalproductsprint/x-noveuldkebynuttu] entered the room. (00:11:13) rogpeppe left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds). (00:41:27) Aram [~aram@chello084112126145.24.11.vie.surfer.at] entered the room. (00:41:27) Aram left the room (quit: Changing host). (00:41:27) Aram [~aram@unaffiliated/aramdune] entered the room. (00:45:44) Aram: hmm... acme-sac doesn't use $EMU? (00:54:16) Fish- left the room (quit: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7). (01:16:11) rogpeppe [rog@conference/canonicalproductsprint/x-hjbotnnlnefpaelj] entered the room. (01:21:12) sl left the room (quit: Excess Flood). (02:10:30) sqweek left the room (quit: Read error: Operation timed out). (03:01:00) Aram left the room (quit: Quit: .). (03:08:25) dreadlorde left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 255 seconds). (03:21:58) dreadlorde [dreadlorde@c-68-42-82-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] entered the room. (03:32:09) hiro_: 21:08 < anth_x1> rangboom, yes. but it's mostly-defunct. (03:32:21) hiro_: does anyone know why it is defunct now? 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