Conversation with #inferno at Mon Nov 18 02:05:41 2013 on powerman@irc.freenode.net (irc) (02:05:41) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by mennis at 17:30:16 on 12/28/09 (03:22:28) mischief: is styxservers-nametree like 9p's Tree? (03:42:58) bjh13 [~bjh13@cpe-142-136-173-218.socal.res.rr.com] entered the room. (03:55:22) mischief: well, the 'name' file is done. (03:59:23) leetspete1: w007 w007 (04:00:02) mischief: heh not much else (04:56:12) bjh13 left the room (quit: Quit: leaving). (05:27:51) acmeuser [~acmeuser@68-188-231-237.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] entered the room. (05:28:06) acmeuser left the room. (05:28:56) mischief: is str[len str] = chr the same as append, or is that replacing the last char in a string? (05:38:10) qrstuv: it's the same as append (05:38:34) qrstuv: str[len str - 1] = c would replace the last rune (05:50:56) raphaelsc left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (05:58:16) mischief: alright (05:58:33) mischief: i'm porting spree to go.. somehow i imagined this being easier (07:38:34) fdd left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). (07:39:55) fdd [fdd@unaffiliated/fdd] entered the room. (08:40:38) bjh13 [~bjh13@cpe-142-136-173-218.socal.res.rr.com] entered the room. (09:52:25) bjh13 left the room (quit: Quit: leaving). (10:06:46) rogpeppe [~rog@host-92-23-141-183.as13285.net] entered the room. (10:15:21) Code_Man` [~Code_Man@247-6.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] entered the room. (12:27:44) kabbi [~kabbi@217.21.43.95] entered the room. (13:08:57) raphaelsc [~rsc@187-127-249-115.user.veloxzone.com.br] entered the room. (13:16:26) kabbi left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (14:59:14) kabbi [~kabbi@217.21.43.95] entered the room. (15:30:03) Gegemon left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (15:32:06) raphaelsc left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 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(20:04:11) anth_r left the room (quit: Excess Flood). (20:24:39) mischief: what does m of Sets->Set represent? (20:38:35) leetspete1: mischief: "m"? (20:38:53) mischief: http://code.google.com/p/inferno-os/source/browse/appl/lib/sets.b (20:40:27) mischief: as i understand it, if m is ~0, testing for any random bit will always be true (20:44:21) leetspete1: It's a flag, right? 0 if the set is the numbers contained, ~0 if it's all positive integers besides what the set contains. (20:44:27) leetspete1: That's how it looks, anyway. (20:45:05) mischief: yea, so ~0 means that testing for any bit will always be true (20:45:07) mischief: ? (20:45:23) mischief: but operations like invert will only operate on the actually set bits (20:59:30) leetspete1: Am I missing something? (21:00:02) leetspete1: I mean, invert() also inverts Set.a. (21:01:59) leetspete1: It just reverses the sense of the test. (21:02:07) leetspete1: http://unsane.reverso.be/setex.b.txt (21:02:13) ***sandbender1512 nods (21:02:22) sandbender1512: leetspete1's interpretation is how I read that too (21:04:08) leetspete1: mischief: That link is a small sample program. (21:04:53) leetspete1: I wonder if I'm missing something? The thing mischief is describing wouldn't make sense. (21:10:39) mischief: what (21:15:36) sandbender1512: if it's an empty set and m == 0 (members excluded), then a test for anything will return True (nothing excluded)... if you invert that, m is then ~0 and the set represents all positive integers, and a test for anything still returns true (21:16:24) sandbender1512: not sure if that helps at all... I basically just regurgitated the comment at the beginning of sets.b, but... seems straightforward? (21:16:46) mischief: ok (21:16:47) mischief: http://sprunge.us/hIXY (21:17:40) sandbender1512: is that Go? (21:17:50) mischief: yea (21:18:50) sandbender1512: ah... (21:19:03) sandbender1512: I don't think .m is supposed to affect the operation of holds(), etc... (21:19:34) sandbender1512: it's flip flops internal structures to the set, presumably for efficiency... (21:21:16) sandbender1512: ie: the internal set represenation either represents the members which are NOT present in an infinitely long string of potential bits (values), or the ones that ARE... either way the basic Set functionality works the same way on the outside (21:21:51) mischief: well, i'm porting set (and spree) to go (21:22:05) mischief: writing tests to make sure it works right (21:22:21) sandbender1512: sorry, I mis-spoke above... test for anything on a non-inverted empty set where m == 0 will return false since m == 0 indicates that the set values are what's excluded, and the set value would internally be the imaginary infinitely-long string of 1's (21:22:26) ***sandbender1512 nods (21:22:38) sandbender1512: yeah, so... I've never used Go/didn't run your example... (21:22:45) sandbender1512: but I'm fairly certain the behaviour is correct (21:23:01) sandbender1512: on the "outside", invert should do what you think it does/what your sample code tests (21:23:35) mischief: i simplied copied leetspete1's example (21:23:38) mischief: simply* (21:23:47) ***sandbender1512 nods (21:57:53) leetspete1: Sorry, had a phone call. But the test looks correct. (22:03:41) kabbi left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 272 seconds). (22:03:47) kabbi_ [~kabbi@178.124.107.211] entered the room. (23:23:08) Code_Man` left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (00:01:04) kabbi_ left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (00:37:28) anth_r [none@root.9srv.net] entered the room. (01:17:44) bjh13 left the room (quit: Quit: leaving). (01:25:10) Code_Man` [~Code_Man@247-6.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] entered the room. (02:11:50) Code_Man` left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (03:48:54) fdd left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 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