Conversation with #inferno at Mon Jun  9 18:34:12 2014 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc)
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(01:50:30) _sl: hello
(01:51:04) _sl: it's been a while since i fired up inferno on windows, but isn't networking supposed to automatically configure itself in this scenario?
(01:51:20) _sl: my /net/ndb is empty
(01:57:46) qrstuv: _sl: what's not configured about it?
(01:59:42) _sl: no /net/ether0, nothing in /net/ndb, i can't seem to open tcp connections
(02:01:26) qrstuv: inferno's host /net doesn't provide ethers, and /net/ndb doesn't matter
(02:01:32) _sl: i see
(02:01:37) _sl: i do have /net/tcp, etc
(02:01:55) qrstuv: have you got #I ?
(02:02:25) _sl: yes
(02:02:36) _sl: with arp, ndb, tcp and udp
(02:03:05) qrstuv: so you have '#I'/tcp but no /net/tcp ?
(02:03:57) _sl: i also have those files in /net
(02:05:02) qrstuv: sorry, i misread that you didn't have /net/tcp
(02:05:08) _sl: sorry, i conflated a couple of misunderstandings
(02:05:12) _sl: i can open tcp connections
(02:05:33) _sl: disregard my prattling
(02:05:44) qrstuv: disregard mine as well
(02:06:08) _sl: thanks
(02:06:24) qrstuv: X;9|,<
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(15:56:43) norayr: hey #inferno people
(15:57:01) norayr: let me repeat my question. (though by looking at dis manual I think I know the answer)
(15:57:50) norayr: does dis protect one process memory from being corrupted by other process?
(15:58:42) norayr: I mean I see that Limbo protects one process from another. But it's possible to overcome it by writing custom dis code right?
(15:58:49) norayr: not overcome, probably bypass.
(17:09:07) powerman1: norayr: I don't remember full spec of dis, but if you looking for a way to do this you can always implement this as custom inferno driver (i.e. in C code) available from limbo like sys/draw/etc.-like modules
(17:13:58) norayr: hey, powerman1, no I am not looking for a way to do that, I am just thinking, concerned about protection.
(17:14:43) norayr: (besides I have read your blog posts, very good introduction to the inferno world)
(17:15:09) norayr: but yes, I am concerned by process protection in multiuser environment.
(17:15:13) powerman1: in theory running untrusted .dis inside jail implemented using namespaces/pctl() should be safe
(17:15:45) norayr: or even not multiuser. there can be malicous dis code.
(17:15:52) norayr: hm.
(17:18:26) powerman1: norayr: so if you think you've found a way to escape from jail or access other processes memory using handcrafted .dis - this may be interesting, especially if you manage to create proof-of-concept .dis file
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(17:22:45) norayr: no I didn't. I am thinking about security in single adress space operating systems. They avoid context switches, but what about security?
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(17:23:16) norayr: As far as I understand from dis manual, it's instruction set is very similar to the regular asm.
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