Conversation with #inferno at Sat Dec 27 22:01:24 2014 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc)
(22:01:24) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by mennis at 17:30:16 on 12/28/09
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(05:39:53) henesy: the fpuctl thing requires a patch
(05:39:58) henesy: let me try to track it down
(05:40:06) henesy: and make sure that the bin is in your PATH
(05:40:25) henesy: https://code.google.com/p/inferno-os/issues/detail?id=300#c4
(05:40:27) henesy: there's the patch
(05:40:33) henesy: do that for fpuctl ,adapt as needed
(05:53:09) nyarlshub: cool
(05:53:13) nyarlshub: thanks, henesy
(05:56:14) henesy: nyarlshub: np :) I fiddled with inferno a lot in the fury that it wouldn't compile. It also helps to double check that you're on the latest hg repo version
(05:56:22) henesy: I made that error a few times 
(05:56:47) nyarlshub: i did an "hg pull -u" before starting to compile
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(05:57:24) henesy: hg update or w/e it is too?
(05:57:46) _sl: that's the -u
(05:58:16) henesy_eclipse: ah ok
(06:13:34) nyarlshub: henesy: when i try to apply your patch i get an error:
(06:13:38) nyarlshub:  gpatch -p1 < ../fpuctl.patch
(06:13:40) nyarlshub: gpatch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input.
(06:14:03) henesy_eclipse: nyarlshub: just manually type it in, it's like 3 lines.
(06:14:12) nyarlshub: yeah, i'm going to make the changes manually
(06:14:17) nyarlshub: that was just an fyi
(06:29:30) nyarlshub: hmm.. i'm still getting the same errors
(06:31:11) henesy_eclipse: I've only ever compiled on linux and plan 9, if what you're doing now doesn't work: mk muke; and start over again. Other than that, no advice that comes to mind, maybe try emailing people who know about inferno
(06:31:59) nyarlshub: i did mk nuke first
(06:32:17) _sl: what's the os?
(06:32:25) nyarlshub: freebsd
(06:32:32) nyarlshub: some info about my system:  http://okturing.com/src/2577/body
(06:33:33) nyarlshub: full log from the first time i tried this with gcc here:  http://okturing.com/src/2576/body
(06:33:57) nyarlshub: then i applied henesy's patch (which is much appreciated, btw), but i still get the same errors
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(06:37:19) _sl: i never tried building on freebsd
(06:37:31) _sl: on openbsd, a few years ago, the fix was to add a print statement (no, really) :)
(06:37:49) nyarlshub: heh
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(06:38:10) nyarlshub: some variant of a heisenbug, maybe?
(06:39:23) _sl: it was explained to me but i don't remember :)
(06:41:54) henesy: google is your friend
(06:46:52) nyarlshub: until you make it your enemy
(06:47:08) _sl: google does not love you
(07:01:29) nyarlshub: hmm
(07:01:46) nyarlshub: i wonder if this problem is happening because i'm using a 64-bit assembler?
(07:01:50) nyarlshub: i'm on a 64-bit system
(07:01:58) nyarlshub: but i'm compiling for FreeBSD/386
(07:02:20) _sl: i'm not sure if anyone has built inferno on amd64, maybe i'm wrong
(07:03:33) nyarlshub: well, that could be a problem, then
(07:03:44) nyarlshub: don't think i have the skills to be a pioneer in this area
(07:07:59) henesy: I compiled inferno on amd64 linux just fine
(07:08:11) henesy: but FOR 386
(07:08:13) _sl: cool
(07:08:13) _sl: did it work?
(07:08:21) _sl: ah
(07:08:42) henesy: it worked, but I didn't try to build an amd64 inferno
(07:08:44) henesy: sorry :P
(07:09:55) henesy: I can compile it for 386 on an amd64 system just fine if my memory serves me correctly
(07:10:06) henesy: so I don't see why that would be a problem on bsd
(07:10:14) henesy: then again i'm not incredibly familiar with bsd
(07:14:02) nyarlshub: shouldn't amd64 be able to run i386 code too, afterwards?
(07:15:42) henesy: of course?
(07:15:46) henesy: I think?
(07:16:36) henesy: I mean, that's what multi-lib adds functionality for when compiling, compile for a different arch, and in linux, a platform to run programs that require 32 bit libraries when running
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(07:26:55) nyarlshub: FreeBSD also has some 32-bit compatibility libraries
(07:27:00) nyarlshub: so i think this should be possible
(07:27:51) nyarlshub: but i'm not terribly familiar with how that all works... i just seem to recall that 32-bit programs should be runnable on 64-bit systems in 32-bit compatibility mode, if i'm not mistaken
(07:28:13) nyarlshub: compiling them is another matter
(07:29:21) nyarlshub: it seems i need to use a 32-bit toolset to do this.. but i'm not sure what that is on freebsd, nor how to get the inferno makefiles to use those
(07:29:52) nyarlshub: doing that is probably a bit out of my league
(07:30:05) nyarlshub: what i'll probably wind up doing is spinning up a linux vm and playing with inferno in there
(07:49:46) henesy_eclipse: just poke around and see what you can find on multi-lib/multilib
(07:49:52) henesy_eclipse: that's the "official" term I believe
(07:50:36) henesy_eclipse: not 100% sure how it works on *bsd myself though
(07:51:01) nyarlshub: don't think they have multilib on freebsd
(07:51:07) nyarlshub: but there's something called "compat4x-i386"
(07:51:10) henesy_eclipse: I find that hard to believe
(07:51:12) henesy_eclipse: might be that
(07:51:20) nyarlshub: that has a bunch of libraries in it
(07:51:21) henesy_eclipse: ask on #freebsd or what have you?
(07:51:34) henesy_eclipse: libraries are what you want
(07:51:39) nyarlshub: well, i think i'll need to get inferno to compile first before that can be useful
(07:51:50) nyarlshub: and i'm not sure i'm up for that
(07:52:00) henesy_eclipse: no, you might need it to compile inferno
(07:52:03) nyarlshub: easier to just boot up a linux vm and compile it in that
(07:52:20) henesy_eclipse: I needed multi-lib to compile on amd64 linux
(07:52:28) nyarlshub: ah
(07:52:32) henesy_eclipse: otherwise it can't handle 386 as far as I know
(07:52:32) nyarlshub: yeah, that makes sense
(07:52:38) nyarlshub: i guess it has to be linked against those libs
(07:52:53) henesy_eclipse: and then you need the libs to run things (sometimes)
(07:52:53) nyarlshub: but i'm getting the errors before the linking stage
(07:53:00) henesy_eclipse: hrm
(07:54:08) henesy_eclipse: maybe try searching the raw error on various search engines, then asking some mailing lists
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(14:01:59) powerman: if anyone will be able to compile inferno on 64-bit freebsd (or even any *bsd) - please let me know how you did this
(14:02:51) powerman: I didn't use *bsd myself, but I'm trying to support up-to-date document with instructions how to install inferno on all modern OS
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(20:32:52) henesy: powerman: I can try to get a VM up and running and give it a go in a VM, but I've only ever performed such an action in linux
(20:32:56) henesy: also, link to the documentation?
(20:33:19) powerman: henesy: it's in Russian
(20:33:53) powerman: http://geektimes.ru/post/145922/
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(20:37:33) henesy: powerman: thank you regardless. I can run it through google translate and infer pretty well :)
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