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(00:56:03) SCHAAP137 left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection). (01:27:20) SCHAAP137 [qorrie@unaffiliated/schaap137] entered the room. (02:29:53) bjorkintosh left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264 seconds). (02:31:26) bjorkintosh [~bjork@ip68-13-224-81.ok.ok.cox.net] entered the room. (03:28:26) bozojoe [4475c5d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.117.197.210] entered the room. (03:28:42) bozojoe: hey gang (03:28:50) anth_x [none@minipizzabox.9srv.net] entered the room. (03:30:16) bozojoe: do y'all know if it's possible to read raw characters from an inferno shell script (i.e. without echoing the characters to the screen) (03:30:52) powerman: I think so (03:30:55) bozojoe: i've tried "echo rawon > /dev/consctl" but i'm not sure i see a path through the c-code where this will actually do the right thing. (03:31:41) bozojoe: i'm trying to do this w/o c or limbo code, but if i have to that's ok. (03:34:20) bozojoe: ah, re-reading the man page, it seems it might require writing to consctl AND keeping it open. (03:34:24) powerman: yep (03:34:43) bozojoe: off to learn more inferno shell scripting. (03:35:31) bozojoe: on a side note, has anyone on the IRC written a limbo shell extension before? (03:36:17) bozojoe: what i'm working up to is a command line history mechanism "compatible" with unix-y terminals w/o using something like rlwrap. (03:36:59) bozojoe: not sure if writing a shim or replacement for "sh" is right, or if it could be done with a shell loadable module. (03:37:22) anth_x: the 'write and hold open' thing is very common in inferno (and plan9) interfaces. it's a bit awkward from the shell, but worth getting familiar with. (03:37:44) bozojoe: obviously i'm a noob ;) (03:38:41) anth_x: if you're already facing the 'write and hold open' thing, you're moving pretty quick, so good! (03:39:11) powerman: this simple example works for reading single symbol: (03:39:14) powerman: ; { echo rawon; reply=`{read} } >/dev/consctl (03:44:55) bozojoe: very helpful example powerman! (03:45:37) bozojoe: powerman, i was reading your webpage when you replied :) (03:46:41) bozojoe: anybody here looked at node9? impressive effort, but i was sad that limbo/dis were excised. (03:47:45) powerman: bozojoe: as for Inferno's sh, I recommend you to read leetspete's article http://debu.gs/entries/inferno-part-1-shell (03:47:49) bozojoe: i do love lua/luajit, but not sure this is the path i would have taken. no offense to the author, it looks like he's done a lot of work and generated a little buzz which can't hurt. (03:48:07) bozojoe: thx powerman. (04:15:44) aap_ [~aap@f051218222.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered the room. (04:18:59) aap left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds). (04:25:22) bozojoe left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed). 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