Conversation with #inferno at Thu May  4 18:02:42 2017 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc)
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(22:50:48) david_boddie: I was wondering if anyone has made an updated version of the Dis VM specification, or made notes on it. There are a few things I'm unclear on.
(22:52:08) powerman: david_boddie: Check maillist archives and this channel archives.
(22:52:42) david_boddie: The old maillist, or the Google group?
(22:53:08) powerman: I believe there was some activity related to Dis several years ago, but don't remember what/where exactly.
(22:53:16) david_boddie: I suppose it wouldn't hurt me to check both. :-)
(22:53:20) powerman: yep
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(22:53:52) david_boddie: Now I think about it, there might be some useful meta-information in the hg commit logs.
(22:55:10) david_boddie: Thanks for the hints.
(22:55:15) qrstuv: it's easiest to just read xec.c
(22:55:34) david_boddie: qrstuv: leetspete also suggested that. :-)
(22:56:15) powerman: +1 :)
(22:56:15) qrstuv: much of the documentation is lies
(22:56:31) david_boddie: I just wish there were more comments in the code...
(22:57:36) qrstuv: there's a paper that mentions some of the stuff that got added since the documentation was initially written
(22:57:46) qrstuv: it talks about exceptions and some of the other stuff
(22:58:18) qrstuv: but i don't recall which one it is
(22:59:14) qrstuv: http://www.inferno-os.info/inferno/papers/
(22:59:15) qrstuv: http://www.inferno-os.info/inferno/papers/changes.pdf
(23:01:29) david_boddie: That looks familiar. I noticed that there was a new "raise" opcode, and it appears in the generated code for a number of programs.
(00:00:51) david_boddie: Thanks for the hints and links, everyone.
(00:00:56) ***david_boddie goes digging
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(20:46:19) leetspete1: Anyone have any weird issues running Inferno with new-ish glibc/gcc/X11?
(20:46:57) leetspete1: I suspect a race condition somewhere.  It crashes, but crashes much less often when I turn off JIT.
(20:47:42) leetspete1: And whatever's going on with the pthreads thing that leaves a zombie process makes GDB balk at debugging it.
(20:50:09) leetspete1: Crashes semi-reliably when I try to start up the GUI with JIT on, but it's a soft-crash in that case, it just goes unresponsive.
(20:50:24) leetspete1: (With no new window created.)
(21:10:06) qrstuv: one might wonder how new
(21:12:34) qrstuv: also i've never had any problems running gdb on zombie emu
(21:12:49) leetspete1: No issues with gcc 4.8.5, glibc 2.19, xcb-proto 1.11.
(21:13:06) leetspete1: Let me boot the angry laptop to figure out the package versions on there.
(21:13:55) leetspete1: (Well, no issues besides the usual.)
(21:16:46) qrstuv: gcc 4.8.4, glibc 2.19, and xcb 1.1.0 work for me
(21:22:41) leetspete1: gcc 6.3.0, glibc 2.24, xcb-proto 1.12.
(21:24:46) leetspete1: That's the badly behaving system.
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