Conversation with #inferno at Fri Dec 29 10:42:40 2017 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc) (10:42:40) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by anth at 19:45:51 on 04/07/15 (16:52:52) Hazelesque_ left the room (quit: Quit: witty quit message goes here). (16:55:02) Hazelesque [~hazel@lopsa/member/hazelesque] entered the room. (20:09:53) leg [~jorge@host110-47-231-152.movistar.com.ni] entered the room. (20:10:49) leg left the room (quit: Client Quit). (21:04:47) leg [~jorge@host110-47-231-152.movistar.com.ni] entered the room. (22:04:01) leg left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (23:15:43) fgudin left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds). (15:41:41) leg [~jorge@host110-47-231-152.movistar.com.ni] entered the room. (16:07:03) leg left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (16:07:16) leg [~jorge@host110-47-231-152.movistar.com.ni] entered the room. (19:00:40) leg left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (19:00:54) leg [~jorge@host110-47-231-152.movistar.com.ni] entered the room. 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(17:11:20) Id- left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). (19:33:52) sirjofri: hey guys, what do you use inferno for? do you use it for daily work sometimes? (20:09:25) leetspete1: sirjofri: Yes; I'm using it right now, in fact. (20:12:29) sirjofri: because i cannot find much software for daily use, like irc client (20:12:32) sirjofri: and i miss vim (20:13:08) leetspete1: I'm using the IRC client MJL made, ircfs. (20:13:31) leetspete1: https://bitbucket.org/mjl/ircfs/ (20:14:23) leetspete1: Acme took a few days to get used to, I don't really miss vim. (20:17:56) sirjofri: acme is indeed a great tool, but I'm more that keyboard-guy, i don't really use mice (20:18:33) leetspete1: Yeah, I came over from vi/screen/urxvt. (20:19:18) leetspete1: MJL also did a vi-ish editor. (20:19:33) sirjofri: can acme have something like syntax highlighting too? (20:19:48) sirjofri: or auto completion? (20:22:57) leetspete1: Syntax highlighting, you'd have to hack it; I think it'd be non-trivial. Auto-completion is doable, though. (20:23:46) sirjofri: so what do you use for coding, ... (20:26:43) leetspete1: Acme, if you're asking about the editor. If you mean the language, for work, usually it's Ruby, but I sneak other things in when I get a chance. (20:30:57) leetspete1: I never used syntax highlighting to begin with, though I did make heavy use of ctags. (20:32:03) sirjofri: i started without syntax highlighting (qbasic) but i like it and use it. (20:32:49) leetspete1: Ha, grey on blue. That's where I started off, also. (20:33:31) sirjofri: it was a great system. i remember the monkeys and the banana bombs (20:33:56) sirjofri: but today i would never use it again (20:37:21) leetspete1: Yeah, I don't think it's too popular nowadays. (20:39:17) sirjofri: later I learned assembly (20:39:37) sirjofri: and I loved it (20:40:57) leetspete1: I went QBASIC→C→Assembly→Perl. (20:42:12) leetspete1: I really like ARM but x86 assembly always upset me a little, haha. (20:42:27) sirjofri: i never coded on arm (20:42:45) sirjofri: i loved c64 assembly. it's great to be the "god" of the machine (20:43:10) leetspete1: Ah, I never had a C64. (20:49:12) sirjofri: i didn't have one, too. but there are emulators (21:13:40) leetspete1: Interesting bit: Arthur Whitney was using notepad.exe when working on k: http://archive.vector.org.uk/art10501320 (21:18:16) sirjofri: well, i wrote some simple programs with microsofts debug command line tool (21:21:43) sirjofri: leetspete1: could you please help me install the util package? (21:22:00) sirjofri: i tried it but it's not that easy (21:22:32) leetspete1: Sure thing! (21:22:56) leetspete1: The easiest way is to just cd to where it is and type 'mk install' from inside Inferno. (21:24:40) sirjofri: i tried that, but it misses /mkconfig and /mkfiles/mksubdirs (21:24:55) sirjofri: and it doesn't know how to build "install" (21:26:15) leetspete1: Hm. You're talking about mjl's util package? (21:26:19) sirjofri: yes (21:26:46) sirjofri: downloaded as zip and unpacked it to my inferno user's directory (21:27:38) leetspete1: So, sanity check, what's `pwd` say? (21:28:22) sirjofri: /usr//source/mjl-util-74030c2abdc6 (21:29:10) leetspete1: Okay, and you ignored his stuff about setting $ROOT, right? (21:29:20) sirjofri: i tried it (21:29:38) leetspete1: That's only useful if you're doing it outside Inferno; inside you just ignore that variable and mk. (21:29:56) sirjofri: that's what I thougt, so I also tried it without (21:30:28) leetspete1: Okay. So if you just do `mk`, it won't build? (21:30:52) sirjofri: no (21:31:14) sirjofri: because it includes the mkconfig file and that includes /mkconfig which doesn't exist (21:31:59) leetspete1: Hm. Did you remove it? That comes with the Inferno repo. (21:32:03) sirjofri: and /mkfiles/mksubdirs does not exist too (21:32:19) sirjofri: i installed inferno on arch via aur. maybe it's not in there? (21:32:49) leetspete1: Maybe they clear out the build stuff when they install it? (21:33:12) leetspete1: I didn't know it was in AUR, that's cool. (21:33:31) sirjofri: I also tried copying the mkconfig file from /lib/mk and reconfigure it, but it didn't work too (21:33:37) leetspete1: It's unfortunate if they break it by leaving out the source, though. Inferno works a lot like Go, it prefers to have its own source code around. (21:34:26) leetspete1: Can you point me to the AUR build script? I wanna see what it's doing. (21:35:00) leetspete1: The easiest way to solve it might be to extract the full inferno-os repo, then copy AUR's compiled binaries on top of that. (21:35:34) sirjofri: there are two inferno aur packages. one is inferno-hg with full source, the other seems to be prebuilt (21:35:41) sirjofri: i try installing the hg version (21:36:36) sirjofri: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=inferno (21:36:40) sirjofri: here you can find both version (21:41:18) leetspete1: Oh, yeah. Even the hg one doesn't copy everything: https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/make-install-root.sh?h=inferno-hg (21:41:46) sirjofri: ok, then I have to install everything, i guess (21:42:22) leetspete1: Seems like it. (21:42:30) leetspete1: I wonder why they'd leave all of that out. (21:44:29) sirjofri: I have no idea... (21:57:42) sirjofri: leetspete1: testutil0 seems to work. it responds with "testing warn..." (21:57:47) sirjofri: is that correct? (22:00:15) leetspete1: I believe so. (22:00:26) sirjofri: ok, thank you very much (22:05:04) leetspete1: No worries! I'm working but I'll be around if you run into any other issues. 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