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(21:56:21) because[m]: Basically when I don't know what man page to read and I have a dumb question I'd rather not have to bother people here. (21:56:49) because[m]: Like how do I change the font? I can't find an environment variable the way that Plan9 has one. (21:57:06) because[m]: See that's a stupid question. But I want to know (22:09:58) leg left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (22:10:31) powerman: because[m]: in ~/lib/wmsetup: (22:10:57) powerman: menufont path/to/some.font (22:11:12) powerman: menu Shell {wmrun wm/sh -f path/to/some.font} (22:11:42) powerman: fn wmsh { (22:11:42) powerman: wm/sh -f path/to/some.font $* (22:11:42) powerman: } (22:14:25) qrstuv left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds). (22:27:40) because[m]: Thank you (23:55:10) leg [~jorge@host-182-47-0-161.ibw.com.ni] entered the room. (01:09:55) henesy__ is now known as henesy (02:03:45) rogpeppe1 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 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I was then immediately presented with questions that I couldn't answer. The differences between Plan9 and Inferno are good enough that I was stumped on a couple things. The font issue being the first (21:43:44) leg left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (23:27:20) henesy: There are inferno papers and such on http://doc.cat-v.org (02:11:56) Kumool [~nmz@adsl-64-237-236-112.prtc.net] entered the room. (02:41:42) Kumool left the room (quit: Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)). (04:12:34) Kumool [~nmz@adsl-64-237-236-112.prtc.net] entered the room. (05:29:29) nordmike2 [~nordmike@178.68.119.135] entered the room. (05:32:09) nordmike1 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264 seconds). (05:46:31) qrstuv: it's alright to pester people when you can't find what you're looking for in the manual (05:50:18) henesy: im just not sure he'll find a copy here faster than a copy through a search engine (05:50:28) henesy: no passive aggression was intended (05:52:35) qrstuv: i also have no idea how to change fonts (05:52:52) qrstuv: acme has acme-font and acme-Font environment variables (06:14:57) henesy: this was lying around on the grid if it helps: http://okturing.com/src/2202/body (06:17:27) qrstuv: it doesn't (06:44:50) Kumool: set the variables before calling acme in $home/profile then restart, both acme-font and acme-Font must point to the same file in /fonts (06:46:16) henesy: that's kinda gross (06:47:47) qrstuv: given the context of the question was inferno on a touchscreen, i'm not entirely sure the question was strictly limited to acme (06:48:44) Kumool: just joined so i missed that part, sorry (09:04:34) Kumool left the room (quit: Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(15:52:57) sirjofri: how can I share my keyboard from one inferno os to another via styx/9p? (15:53:30) sirjofri: just styxlisten and mounting the /dev/keyboard seems not to be enough (16:02:24) qrstuv: i think Wmlib->makedrawcontext and Wmclient->makedrawcontext will do it (16:04:48) qrstuv: the graphics system is weird compared to plan 9 (16:05:58) qrstuv: graphical programs get a Draw->Context passed to them by their caller instead of making one themselves from whatever keyboard, pointer, and draw files are in their name space (16:06:24) sirjofri: ok, that makes sense (16:06:45) sirjofri: and inside sh? is there an easier way? (16:06:59) qrstuv: i'm sure it made sense to somebody at the time (16:07:11) qrstuv: you don't have to do it from sh (16:07:37) qrstuv: you could make a program that sh calls and sets up the right ctxt and then calls the program you want to run (19:13:22) sirjofri: is there a way to build only tk? (19:59:00) henesy: For? 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