Conversation with #inferno at Fri Mar  2 09:11:04 2018 on powerman@chat.freenode.net (irc)
(09:11:04) #inferno: Topic for #inferno set by anth at 19:45:51 on 04/07/15
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(14:10:59) qweo: internet_cafe, what book where you talking about?
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(21:55:53) internet_cafe: heya qweo 
(21:56:00) qweo: Hey!
(21:56:07) internet_cafe: "Inferno Programming with Limbo" 
(21:56:35) qweo: Is it hard to come by?
(21:56:47) internet_cafe: im about 100 pages in, now 
(21:56:54) internet_cafe: naw. i can share the PDF 
(21:58:27) qweo: Would be great.
(21:59:10) qweo: Though it could presumably land you in trouble in some jurisdictions
(22:04:27) internet_cafe: https://a.uguu.se/vhdqN5JzL38P_Inferno_Programming_With_Limbo.pdf
(22:05:48) internet_cafe: it's written tutorial-style, with practice questions at the end of the chapter -- a bit more gentle than "descent into limbo" and "the limbo programming language"
(22:09:47) internet_cafe: i looked at my old CS 101 and 102 classes and rewrote 2 of the projects in limbo to start getting a feel for it 
(22:10:16) internet_cafe: b/c inferno can run as an application on so many kinds of devices, it seems like it would be a good fit for meshnets or other networked applications 
(22:10:27) internet_cafe: write once, run everywhere lol 
(22:12:20) qweo: Getting a good Wi-Fi mesh implementation (Netsukuku?) for Inferno could really drive its adoption
(22:28:20) internet_cafe: I've seen that inferno has been ported to Android and nintendo-DS, any chance it is on iOS? 
(22:31:55) internet_cafe: maybe i could hire some freelancer to port inferno to it. lol 
(22:32:37) qweo: Why iDevice BTW?
(22:33:05) internet_cafe: Androids are most common but some people use iDevices. Me personally, I can't stand em :P 
(22:33:57) qweo: How many iOS users jailbreak? I don't think Apple would allow Inferno into its store
(22:35:33) internet_cafe: good point.. 
(22:37:40) qweo: Imagine an average Joe considering a smartphone: "iPhone? No way, Inferno's a killer app!" :-) What a world that could be! :-)
(22:56:35) internet_cafe: besides the inferno-os code, mjl- 's awesome work, and limbo-scheme do you know any other good Limbo projects?
(22:57:13) internet_cafe: My assumption is that a lot of real world Limbo code has been closed source
(23:05:38) henesy: https://code.google.com/archive/p/inferno-j2d/ is worth mentioning
(23:05:50) henesy: there's also nemo's stuff
(23:10:12) qrstuv: (03:05:46 PM) henesy: https://code.google.com/archive/p/inferno-j2d/ is worth mentioning
(23:10:14) qrstuv: why?
(23:10:38) henesy: i assume internet_cafe is looking for interesting inferno projects
(23:10:42) henesy: j2d seems interesting
(23:10:47) qrstuv: why?
(23:11:44) henesy: converting classes to dis seems interesting imo
(23:11:51) qrstuv: why?
(23:13:45) henesy: gives inferno software reach, the capacity to import foreign projects not written for inferno or a code base to refer to if you wanted to work on a similar project 
(23:14:04) qrstuv: what is interesting about that?
(23:15:10) henesy: i suppose nothing if it's not a topic that interests you
(23:15:23) qrstuv: so you just have some kind of gut feeling?
(23:15:24) henesy: qrstuv: sorry for wasting your time
(23:15:28) henesy: yeah
(23:19:24) qweo: Didn't know such a thing existed. Thank you henesy!
(23:19:39) henesy: cheers
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(01:58:23) joe9: How does limbo performance compare to C programs?
(02:06:53) powerman: about 2x slower in average, AFAIR
(02:10:39) joe9: powerman: Thanks.
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(18:58:13) qrstuv: https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=inferno-os/93JHgyY5tIM/xnvv85JXCAAJ
(18:58:13) qrstuv: what does "offsets are collapsed into addresses" mean?
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